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davidyacht Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidyacht Report Post Quote Reply Topic: PY - BANDITS Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 9:45pm
	Lovely boats but family and business got in the way, so couldn’t get the time on the water
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mongrel Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 Aug 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 304	Post Options Post Reply Quote mongrel Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 9:23pm
	I crewed for Simon, who bought it from you, he sold it on to a Danish lad in Copenhagen at the end of the 1995 worlds.

davidyacht Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidyacht Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 9:07pm
	Yep
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mongrel Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 27 Aug 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 304	Post Options Post Reply Quote mongrel Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 8:57pm
	Davidyacht, did you have 1301?

davidyacht Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidyacht Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 8:20pm
	I shall await Mr Ridges response, but wasn’t the first Howlett built by a Bungy Taylor, Law, Smith set up at Hamble Yacht Services? I concede that Ridgys Kevlar boat and several other 1a’s came off the same mould. Russell Peters/Damon/the Macs boats I thought were off a different 1b mould which later got faired up by Ovi, we had the second or third one. I think the Macs was Little Rocket but their greatest contribution was their leaving “Larry the car” in the foyer of the St Francis Yacht Club two days after the funeral of StFYC favourite son Tom Blackaller at same club. You know more than I about Grace, but always considered her to be something quite special, though was probably the start of an arms race that moved the class away from the off the shelf Parker’s and Rondars.
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Dougaldog Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 05 Nov 10 Location: hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 356	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dougaldog Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 8:08pm
	I'm trying to insert a pic of the Howlett...so much fun and today you can pick them up for peanuts and have a lot of fun!
	Dougal H

Dougaldog Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 05 Nov 10 Location: hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 356	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dougaldog Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 8:02pm
	Davidyacht - hate to say it but Steve B wasn't the prime mover behind Grace -although he sailed it to great effect, there were others who made the boat what it was (and it was only just a 5o5 - you had to be a very lenient measurer to get it to pass on the best day it had,,,) and.............. not being pedantic but the Howlett Ibs were not made at Hamble, but at 'The Shed' (the sailing equivalent of the Skunk works in more ways than one) aka Unit 6b at Bury Farm, Burridge. That isn't like calling it weymouth when it is actually Portland, or even Salcombe when it is Kingsbridge but a whole order of magnitude worse! There were some boats that came off that mould - Damon's Stealth boat....Russell Peter's PoW winner, Septic Slug, Little Rooster, Perfect Sister - the clear green all kevlar boat..... happy days! D
	Dougal H

davidyacht Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345	Post Options Post Reply Quote davidyacht Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 7:40pm
	Interesting post Dougal and I can’t wait for the Christmas edition ... I will be interested to see the evidence for your thesis. I would suggest that the truly breakthrough boats in development classes and in one designs have been holistic approaches that consider the hull, rig and controls ... which have generally been effected by industry insiders, notables include Phil Morrison with William, Summer Wine and the N12 Freefall which I owned, the mainsail luff had more holes than a sheet of postage stamps, Punkarella and DCB were also holistic by Jo Richards , and I would throw Grace by Steve Benjamin into the mix. Most amateur innovation tends to be tinkering the Mike Jackson would be a notable exception.
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iGRF Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Really should get out more Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499	Post Options Post Reply Quote iGRF Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 3:44pm
	The problem we all have I hate to say it is the constriction applied by you know which group. The one thing we had in windsurfing was in the early days, freedom for anyone to build anything and race it, OK the RYA and IYRU eventually did for that as they have here, strict controls over our freedom to just build and sail anything you feel like in a competitive environment. You were lucky Dan in the moment you happened to get the Punk up and running we had that Forum Open Race meet for you to come and show us all what it was capable of and there was an entrepreneur present to do what was necessary and had he not stepped in I'm sure someone else might have. But that event was free of constrictions we were just there for the craic, turn up and race what you brung just for the fun of meeting faces we'd only known virtually. It's a shame something similar doesn't happen more frequently, sort of Custom Open Boat meet .
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Dougaldog Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Visit Member's Homepage Far too distracted from work Joined: 05 Nov 10 Location: hamble Online Status: Offline Posts: 356	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dougaldog Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 08 Mar 21 at 11:56am
	Dan, The other side of the coin is the strength of the 'in-breed' conservatism that exists in the restricted development fleets (but I would argue also exists in the one-designs that aren't really one design) as this too plays a big part. This impacts not only on the designer on the outside, trying to achieve a break through, but often an inside and accepted designer who tries something different - better even, only to find that the 'fleet' ignore it. I've documented a number of new designs that were commissioned and would be been a step along the path of progress, only for things to go wrong. It is not often a front runner who breaks ranks, so you get someone who may not have the best skillset but who fancies a punt at innovation - doesn't get it quite right first time (very few do) with the result that the idea, however good it might have been - sinks from sight. It just so happens that this is a 'hot' topic for me right now.... but I can't right it up yet! The interesting debate on the wider subject suggests that my 'Rock family trees for sailing' idea has just moved up the rankings from a may do to a 'must do' - now planned for a Christmas special! Hope to see you out afloat soon... Dougal
	Dougal H

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