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    Posted: 06 Aug 20 at 8:42am
Most of the noise is coming from the 'Immuners' let's hope Covid doesn't do a 'Spanish Flu' and go after younger people, will hear a few 'bleating' then.
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not being able to prove we're still mid-fleet capable in a noddy class isn't really the biggest issue right now is it?
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Spot on Peter, Mongrel and Boots.

I don't know why some people assume that in paying Class Assoc or Club Membership fees they are buying a service as a customer. In my view in most, apart the most commercial end of the spectrum, all that is being bought is the right to join in a group that is run mostly by volunteers. 
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I would expect any club committee to put the concerns, and health, of their members at the top of considerations about going ahead with an open meeeting under current circumstances. And putting on a Nationals or Open takes a lot of input from local members volunteering to help with onshore marshalling, food, drink, safety and committtee boats. All of those are likely to potentially be exposed to visitors, many from areas where infection rates may be much higher.

It may well be the case that the potential level of risk is over estimated by many, but that is in many ways irrelevant. If those are the concerns of the committee and members then there is no way a club could sensibly go ahead. And whatever the underlying truth turns out to be there have been indications of rising infection rates in Devon, and the SW, which is no surprise to anyone living here if you look at recent traffic flows on the A38. And it would be more surprising if the influx from more infected areas did not lead to a local rise in infections rather than the other way round.
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Originally posted by Bootscooter

I presume that none of us would criticise a fellow Class member for making the personal decision to not attend a major event due to Covid concerns?

So why is it that individuals (or collectively, Clubs) are seemingly being criticised for doing the same?  Sure - it's a shame that these Champs have been cancelled, but really.... we only go to these venues at their invitation as guests, so if for whatever reason they decide that in the current situation they don't feel that it's appropriate to host, then that decision (that may directly affect the Club finances, so hasn't been taken lightly) should be respected.

2nd guessing these decisions, that will have been pondered over for literally hours by Ctte's, and critiquing them on public chat boards just smacks of entitlement IMHO.
Exactly, the clubs don’t want to cancel champs, opens, etc., often these events are what sustain small coastal clubs financially.  
But between upsetting their neighbours, and struggling to find volunteers, its so difficult for clubs to get back to normal.
Personally I wouldn’t feel comfortable about staying away as a paying guest at the moment, you’re putting a lot of faith in the property cleaner’ skills, and the previous occupants honesty/hygiene.
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I presume that none of us would criticise a fellow Class member for making the personal decision to not attend a major event due to Covid concerns?

So why is it that individuals (or collectively, Clubs) are seemingly being criticised for doing the same?  Sure - it's a shame that these Champs have been cancelled, but really.... we only go to these venues at their invitation as guests, so if for whatever reason they decide that in the current situation they don't feel that it's appropriate to host, then that decision (that may directly affect the Club finances, so hasn't been taken lightly) should be respected.

2nd guessing these decisions, that will have been pondered over for literally hours by Ctte's, and critiquing them on public chat boards just smacks of entitlement IMHO.
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Originally posted by Mozzy

I think there is a league of difference between that and the muddled thinking I see in local facebook groups. 
You’re right there, but I think most rational people are able to determine who’s chatting sh*te, and who aren’t.
Though on this subject, whether locals are happy to see the tourists down or not, it’s pretty straight forward and unambiguous.
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Radio Exe was reporting government statistics, which you see on the government website. I quoted it, as funnily enough it's mostly local news that reports on local trends. 

I think there is a league of difference between that and the muddled thinking I see in local facebook groups. 
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Originally posted by Mozzy

Local social media groups Ermm. The bastion of intelligent thought. You certainly won't get irrational fear of outsiders in these places. 
I’m not saying it’s right or not, (certainly no more than quoting Radio Exe as an authority on pandemic statistics), I’m trying to give my experience of how people in Cornwall feel about visitors at the moment, and why this may have an effect on whether folk want to volunteer to hold events for visiting sailors.


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Local social media groups Ermm. The bastion of intelligent thought. You certainly won't get irrational fear of outsiders in these places. 
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