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    Posted: 26 Jun 20 at 4:37pm
You aren't picking them up, you are dragging them on a trolley, you can pull substantially more.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jun 20 at 5:05pm
1000kg on the flat using a pump truck, pushing, pulling is less.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Rupert Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Jun 20 at 7:07pm
I seem to remember a decade or so ago someone pointing out to GRF, as he was before Apple took over, that dinghies are rather bigger than windsurfers, and if you scale up the volume, even older dinghies don't come out too badly.
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The other problem is that if you reduce the hull weight the crew weight becomes more significant. This makes it even harder for a normal sized adult to be competitive against smaller people in either singlehanded or two man boats.

Note most of the renowned weight carrying classes are quite heavy, Osprey, GP14, Wayfarer etc
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Do Different Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 20 at 7:25am
Exactly Paramedic. 
To continue, as the ratio of crew weight to boat weight moves to the crew being a higher proportion the more sensitive the boat becomes to crew positioning and movement. A desirable trait for the more skilled and subtle sailor but as iGRF also wants boats that everyman/woman can step in and sail, perhaps not quite so friendly to the clumsy beginner.

As with everything, there is no right answer.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote NicolaJayne Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Jun 20 at 1:06pm
Originally posted by 423zero

1000kg on the flat using a pump truck, pushing, pulling is less.


given you can get 2000kg rated pump trucks...  although at  that kind of  weight it  really  is on the flat ona  'polished concrete' warehouse floor only 

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Originally posted by iGRF

Originally posted by NicolaJayne


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72 kg? Not a porker? What is it with you people and your casual acceptance of ridiculously heavy old tubs, they had no choice back then, we have a choice now, no wonder the Aero just obliterated new boat sales. 102 kg for a bloody Contender. In the real world it is AGAINST THE LAW for folk to be forced to lift over 32kg in the work place, why does everyone think it's OK to do it in our leisure?

i see our not-so-learned  friend is  demonstrating his ignorance again 


Thanks for reminding me lass, it's 25kgs, it's been a while since I had to study health and safety in the workplace.

Either way, if dinghys were stock you wouldn't be able to move them on your own without an assisting device.


you are incorect there Graham 

repeated lift of  any none trivial weight   can  fall fouls of the  Manual handling Ops regulations , one off   heavier lifts  can be allowed ...   
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The assisting device being launch trolley.
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Originally posted by iGRF

 
Either way, if dinghys were stock you wouldn't be able to move them on your own without an assisting device.

When did you last see someone moving a dinghy without an "assisting device", Graham. Or are people in your neck of the woods so macho they don't bother with trolleys?
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Important to be able to carry your RS Aero above the high tide mark when adventure camping!

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