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    Posted: 19 Oct 19 at 6:42pm
Originally posted by Rupert

Trouble is, bar banter written down can sound far more aggressive than intended sometimes. I know I've both been offended when actually I shouldn't, and I think have offended, when the tone was wrong on my part.

But no banter at all would make this a bit boring, wouldn't it?

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But how did a foiling thread get so far off subject?
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Trouble is, bar banter written down can sound far more aggressive than intended sometimes. I know I've both been offended when actually I shouldn't, and I think have offended, when the tone was wrong on my part.

But no banter at all would make this a bit boring, wouldn't it?
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Posts: 3420 		Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 19 at 5:26pm
Grif is one of the more interesting posters, however in the past he has made posts that should have been an automatic lifetime ban.
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Posts: 3401 		Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 19 Oct 19 at 12:56pm
Originally posted by ian.r.mcdonald

But should personal arguments and posts verging on an attack be part of the forum?

No

It's a group of people talking about boats surely?

Yes

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As a relatively recent returned to the forum I have enjoyed the experience.

I have seen the discussions about trying to revitalise the forum.

My following comment refers generally rather than just to more recent posts. But should personal arguments and posts verging on an attack be part of the forum?

It's a group of people talking about boats surely?
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You have to love igrf/woodbotherer. he is a catalyst on this forum. fast approaching 70yrs after a lifetime on boards, now a dinghy sailor. he has bought and sold a selection of boats, mostly new in the last 10yrs so good for all the classes he has visited. his current sea boat he has decided need foils and more speed on the reaches so a bowsprit sail is required. he has foiling knowledge as a vendor of foiling kite boards and their designers. He has been invloved in the the most lenghty tetchy (not from him) recent posting re lee bow effect which has resulted in a very good sailor and poster throwing his toys out and resigning from the forum plus others going to the same wall but not crossing it. (a shame as reading the whole thread they argued the same/similar things under different names) despite recent events he still thinks this is the place to post for advice for adding foils and a bowsprit to a boat/hull made of wood that he wishes was all carbon fibre with rudder gantrys foil control from the fixed bowsprit. as an aged person with 2 kids in there late twenties who grew up at HISC I appreacited the snowflake comments. Neither of my kids are currently at Hisc but the snowflake comment reads true to the family rows that has been generated from the attitude they learnt as kids.
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Posts: 305 		Post Options Post Options   Quote DiscoBall Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 16 Oct 19 at 11:25pm
Originally posted by iGRF


The difference obviously in the free sail world is the lack of necessity for manual or semi automatic aoa correction, riders do it with a literal nod of their head or slight movement of their body atititude, I'm not confident enough to try the sort of foils employed in the kite and windsurf world on my Farr just yet, but I'm going to eventually, which will be interesting to say the least.


I guess the Farr is small enough, and if you were trapping fairly upright...but what would happen with the rudder?!?

There's some funny 'barking up the wrong tree' examples of trying to fit those sort of foils to racing kayaks, with the very over-optimistic idea that you could make the seat move fore and aft:
https://www.surfski.info/latest-news/story/1586/revo-foil-disrupting-the-surfski-world.html
Seems to have sunk without trace since this article.
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I can weigh in here with a bit of actual expertise crossing as it does into my commercial world, where most of the development now enjoyed by windsurfers (who are playing catch up)was carried out b the kite business where foiling had been growing quite quickly as those who would assign the sport to the Olympic bin have pursued higher speeds at both ends of the spectrum, (early take off, high top speed) as increasing sized foils in area with shallower chord have increasingly been in play chasing 30 knots + top end.

The difference obviously in the free sail world is the lack of necessity for manual or semi automatic aoa correction, riders do it with a literal nod of their head or slight movement of their body atititude, I'm not confident enough to try the sort of foils employed in the kite and windsurf world on my Farr just yet, but I'm going to eventually, which will be interesting to say the least.
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