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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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The difference used to be, in business mistakes get punished, even that doesn't seem to happen these days at corporate and boardroom level, with massive bonuses being issued for failure. This then mirrored in the Public Sector with top earners rewarded come what may, often with golden hand shake payments to say goodbye, then re hired as 'consultants' later. The point of this diatribe? Professionalism at high level does not necessarily equal success, particularly where stakeholders, shareholders, or taxpayers, are footing the bill, it's simply put, high earnings for the boys. Do we want our Governing body to continue down this route? Probably not.
The problem they have, is their income stream is from members and Government sports funding, linked to the Olympics and as I once said to the owner of a particular boat building business exposed to Olympic classes they should have a strategy that at the very least acid tests that disappearing and be developing a plan B, which is us. Us being multi role water users, once upon a time I couldn't really get by without being an RYA member, now I cheerfully and quite deliberately am not. They have incensed, outraged and disappointed me in equal measure over the years and I dare say I'm not alone, so, first call i would have thought would be to find out why that is. Edited by iGRF - 16 Jan 19 at 10:22am |
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Noah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611 |
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We had a mantra handed down from a commercial culture guru / management whizzo a zillion years ago: Decisions should be taken by someone who is a) interested; b) competent; c) qualified. b & c can be confused, but qualified - in this context - really means having the authority to take the decision.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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And the person sitting at the table should be interested in the stuff they are talking about! Even have a modicum of understanding of the subject matter, to better form strategy. |
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ttc546 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 155 |
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Zackly! At last. someone who gets that each person brings their own expertise to the table.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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The way I would hope it would work would be that each department of the RYA would bring their specialist knowledge and experience to the table, and the strategist would be able to balance needs, requirements, budgets etc to put together the whole. At least that's how it would work with a properly functional management team. Of course there are such things as dysfunctional management teams...
The biggest problem IME is if you get a management team that thinks the specialists are too junior to listen to... Edited by JimC - 15 Jan 19 at 7:10pm |
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Such moves and tendencies appear to be growing across many fields.. The seeming distain by some for ‘experts’ in many fields with pre-existing insight and experience in specialist, niche or complex areas or sectors is frankly worrying. That specialist sector experience should ever somehow disqualify individuals from key roles in the modern, increasingly bureaucratic, world is alarming. The recruiters and myriad of consultants that increasingly litter public life would of course argue for the ‘gifted generalist’ .... well of course they would. There is a necessary balance between ‘generalist’ skills and sector specific experience and skills ... you would hope. Disregard, by-pass and ignore the ‘experts’ if you don’t like or agree with what they might say – but then you must really take full responsibility for that decision if things then don’t work out quite as hoped or promised. In 2019 they very often will not .... ! Edited by Cirrus - 15 Jan 19 at 10:20am |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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In another place yesterday I spotted a post from a young woman student bemoaning the lack of political education at her school. Loads of people were jumping on the bandwagon saying yes lets have 'politics' classes at secondary school. I despair
![]() The relevance of this to our discussion becomes evident when we look at when UK politics, basically, drifted away from a (relatively) consensual system and became the spin ridden self serving place it is now. The problem was teaching people to be polititians in university. The last thing we need running the country is someone whose whole life experience consists of :- school, university, political researcher, campaign manager and, ultimately, MP. Political activists need to be passionate about the issue but the current crop are, mostly, not even passionate about politics... For our sport to survive we need people running it who are passionate about boats not people who are passionate about business strategy. Sure some business strategy is useful but 'passionate about boats' is not negotiable IMO.
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Yes, they may not have an entrenched background but the balance of evidence I can see indicates that those who "drop in" to a sport, whether as a sports economist, a sports historian or sports manager, do normally concentrate on the elite.
I'm fairly sure that many people at clubs and running junior classes have spent a lot of time asking young people what they want. Sailing has been trying new ways doing things at a fairly furious rate, compared to the other sports I know. It has promoted canting keel boats, water ballasted boats, foilers, skiffs and sportsboats in a rush of technology that is not equalled by any sport I know. It has a very high level of gender balance in the major event controlled by World Sailing. It has changed Olympic events more over the last 30 or so years than any other sport I can think of - only two classes (M new 470) survive from the 1992 Games. It's hard to find any true evidence that sailing is held back by entrenched views. In fact given the repeated failure of much-hyped "revolutions" to catch hold, the issue may partly be that people who don't actually sail much are spending too much time disparaging the grass roots activities and hyping impractical ones for the sake of being cool. |
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ttc546 ![]() Posting king ![]() ![]() Joined: 15 Apr 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 155 |
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Maybe BECAUSE they might NOT come from that background and entrenched way of thinking and therefore have a different perspective? Maybe they MIGHT have that sports background, and lets hope they still have a different perspective and less entrenched views. Just requires maybe fresh blood to reinvigorate and refresh current ways of doing things that appear to not meet the approval of the old curmudgeons ;-). The new person might even ask the youngsters what THEY want, what THEY see as as future direction and barriers to overcome, and let the curmudgeons breathe their last gasp remembering halcyon days they dont seem to understand will never come back. Edited by ttc546 - 15 Jan 19 at 8:19am |
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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I was in the uni library today and quickly grabbed a sports management textbook. A quick flick confirmed once again how the would-be pros are taught to think. The contents were largely about things like staff management and professionalism. For example, there was a chapter about the upsurge in Australian Rules Football, complete with year-by-year stats for over a decade - but the stats referred only to (non playing) club membership and paid stadium attendance. The actual participants and the volunteers who make it all happen didn't rate a mention.
When the people who specialise in sports management have that sort of attitude, why would a generalist manager/strategist be any better?
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