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    Posted: 26 Nov 18 at 3:19pm
@ Cirrus I have the same thoughts on the Vortex too, something I'd like to try the once.

Does make it look like I returned to sailing at quite an exciting time for new designs, there was a  choice of what looked like fast and challenging boats. Perhaps the designers sneaked off while the accountant wasn't looking. Does make some of todays designs from big manufacturers look 'safe' in comparison, to appeal to a wider range of sailors - thats not a criticism btw. Competitive racing in something normal humans can mange is a good thing.

But then I'm quite shallow. I drive an old Alfa, because of how it looks, because its not easy to drive like a modern car, but it is rewarding.
I'm going to end up with a Finn aren't I?
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Before you buy a Finn - if you need a boat for the larger person (i.e. a Laser, Solo and Aero fill you with dread because you are not 70kg) then add a Hadron H2 to your list; they have only been around a few years so not many second hand boats but they do come up and sell pretty much immediately via the Facebook group.
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Originally posted by Dangerousday

@ Cirrus I have the same thoughts on the Vortex too, something I'd like to try the once.

Does make it look like I returned to sailing at quite an exciting time for new designs, there was a  choice of what looked like fast and challenging boats. Perhaps the designers sneaked off while the accountant wasn't looking. Does make some of todays designs from big manufacturers look 'safe' in comparison, to appeal to a wider range of sailors - thats not a criticism btw. Competitive racing in something normal humans can mange is a good thing.

But then I'm quite shallow. I drive an old Alfa, because of how it looks, because its not easy to drive like a modern car, but it is rewarding.
I'm going to end up with a Finn aren't I?

The Blaze is very accessible - even the old one I tried a few times before Cirrus improved them significantly.  You could get a lot of boat for your money compared to Finn pricing... and if you sail in heavier wind they might also prove a more comfortable boat to leave in second gear when/if you’re feeling a bit knackered halfway up the beat.   

As for the Vortex.... m’eh.   LOL
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 18 at 4:56pm
Blaze is definitely a boat you can sail 'in second gear' when you're knackered, it's one of it's attractions for me TBH  Thumbs Up I can't remember where Dangerousday said he sailed but if it's a smallish lake a Phantom or Finn would probably be a better choice than Blaze.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 18 at 5:02pm
Europe - from 1960 - and a hoot on a small lake if you are small enough to get under the boom and enjoy (really enjoy) roll tacking and gybing
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Post Options Post Options   Quote maxibuddah Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 18 at 6:41pm
Originally posted by Dangerousday

I'm going to end up with a Finn aren't I?


Why not? Mines for sale, buy that
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 18 at 9:09pm
The OP's a big lad I believe, a Finn might just be a bit more sensible than a Europe getafix.......
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 18 at 9:20pm
I am 80kgs and 5 feet 10 Inches would a Finn or Phantom be better, looking for a Saturday special.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Sam.Spoons Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 18 at 9:27pm
The OP doesn't say how tall he is but in another thread he says he weighs north of 100kgs, at 80kg you are probably pretty much on the money (though at the lower end of the weight range) for either.....

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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Nov 18 at 9:33pm
I have read dozens of these requests and never thought about what boats would be suitable for myself, normally sail Minisail/Laser size boats and Mirror solo and various doublehanders as crew and helm.
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