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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I agree, a great achievement, but in itself it already carried its reward, this clearly is a hastily thrown together clickbait scheme to benefit who? Not amateur sailors, a couple of magazines more like and there are so many other things that go on, largely unreported. And as I said before in my rant, lots of unrewarded actions although I'm pleased to read Wing-Wang did get some recognition even if it wasn't from the Sailing community. As to competition stuff, there's a young Snipe sailor, she's won two world titles this year, but she's not part of the RYA meat grinder, so it goes un noticed. Her dad broke the round island record time at Sheppey, the Weymouth Harbour speed record has been broken this season by another amateur, - nothing and these are just things on my limited radar. So you'll pardon me for not being impressed by more accolades being offered for folk who've already been duly rewarded, isn't that what the Endeavour is for? |
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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![]() ![]() In all seriousness yes, the bulk of the fleet are youth sailors but it's an open adult class nonetheless, and the fact is that the best youth sailors in the fleet tend to go straight onto funding when/if they grow too large for the radial. It's an unfortunate limiter on the adult participation in the fleet - people assume that because there's lots of youth sailors that it will be easy to get good results. They turn up, get walloped, and never come back because their ego can't take it.
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But couldn't you say the same for the people you list below?
But, none of those nominated are in the RYA squad system either. And, from the list I think it's only Dave Hivey and Maria who have been in the past. In fact, the Partingtons and Mike Senior are both remarkable for the fact that neither has had any involvement with the RYA and have both instead involved themselves with classes which are a big part of their respective local sailing scenes and have both this year been paid off after many many years of persistence with a world title.
Seems your limited radar is basically hythe and windsurfing and if it's not from there it's a rigged ploy by the RYA and yachting press to reward ex-squaddies.
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It's not at all 'easy' , it' just a different proposition coming in to a class you're a professional at with many years experience and racing against younger sailors who you're similar in stature to and who have most only had one or two years experience in the boat. There probably a handful of adults with lots of experience and being the right size (John, Jon, Steve and Ben Elvin (yourself?)). Compare that to the 200s which Maria won. Next best female helm was in 40th. Most the top sailors are blokes, a lot of which have been top laser, 29er and 420 sailors in the past, and are now several more years experienced. Possibly Ellie Cumpsty at the Solo nationals is a more similar comparison... had she not got 3 OCS. |
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bustinben ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 15 Oct 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 288 |
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Yeah she would have been on for a top 5 had she not been applying laser fleet starting tactics
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Fatboi ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 09 Aug 16 Location: Hampshire Online Status: Offline Posts: 189 |
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Ellie did incredibly well at the solos. The first lady to win a race at the solo nats ever! I spoke to a few of the guys there and they all said she was well punchy on the start line and often very exposed sitting over the line.
What has the 'RYA Meat grinder' gpt to do with publicity? I am pretty sure that the effectiveness and activeness of the class associations has put the people nominated into public awareness. Also who cares if this is a way of creating awareness for a magazine and as a by product some people that have been successful in racing results get some recognition. Fair play to them I say! |
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TimS ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Jul 07 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 5 |
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There were several victories in the Larks by female helms a while back. My other half was crewing in one of them. All female teams in hiking boats a particular rarity.
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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Sure, that was the point - classes like the Int 14 ARE truly international. The GP14 worlds, by contrast, has lots of British and Irish boats but very few race in other countries and only a couple of boats from outside the UK and Ireland go to the "worlds". Arguably the 14s have a real world title whereas the GP14s don't.
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Do classes get "International' status in perpetuity?
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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No, it can be withdrawn at the class'request or if it can no longer meet specified criteria. |
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