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    Posted: 04 Jun 18 at 6:39am
Most of our younger newbies start in a Laser, majority of them stick with Lasers.
I sit on the thwart in the Mirror, mind never sailed it in a drifter yet, not sure if you can get any further forwards ? Will have to have a look.
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I've sailed a mirror while sitting on the foredeck (single handed), with a crew, just send them in front of the mast!
Anything to lift the large flat part of the hull out of the water...
(Be careful - not very stable, nor is it easy to reach the tiller extension)

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Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 18 at 8:50am
Surely a fair amount of average to good laser sailors are avoiding the PY entirely (or at least avoiding it in meaninful ways) and racing at clubs with proper fleets?  What’s th point of a Laser if it’s not for the proper racing it affords???
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PY is so favourable on Sprint I could win virtually every race.
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Originally posted by 423zero

PY is so favourable on Sprint I could win virtually every race.

I threatened the Laserati with my Minisprint this weekend when once more the wind promised only 5mph naturally I would have sailed it off 1246, but eventually as all their little lips quivered and they started blubbering I couldn't do it to them so used the EPS instead.
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How many of the top Laser sailors race in handicap events (apart from the few high profile ones like SailJuice and the Birkett)?
Spice 346 "Flat Broke"
Blaze 671 "supersonic soap dish"
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

How many of the top Laser sailors race in handicap events (apart from the few high profile ones like SailJuice and the Birkett)?

Add the words ‘above average’ to apply to your point... which I agree with btw.

Then look at the number of Laser returns compared to any other class and argue it’s not the most representative....

Then go on a forum and pick a side of the debate and realise the only conclusion is handicap racing is b**locks.


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Handicap racing is only b**locks because nobody with any sense is working to make it better, plus that attitude by it's very nature is killing the sport, since, for most of us handicap racing is all we've known or all there is available ergo dinghyracing is b**locks.
Now with the combination of that attitude, the lack of committment elsewhere you have precisely the reason the sport is in decline.
You and your attitude is exactly that of the 'establishment' so therefore you're all guilty of killing the sport.
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OK following that, I'm going into full rant now.
You say class racing is the only true fair way to race, yet here on this very thread you have inequities galore, multiple sail types multiple mast types.

Even the death trap rock n rolla 200 has at least two different sails now, then take a wander over to the Super Sofa and check out the variety. Show me a Streaker I'll find a faster one, or a Solo.. class racing is no guarantee of equality of performance. In truth there can be only handicap to even things up.

But nobody is even thinking about doing it right.


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Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 04 Jun 18 at 11:21am
Well said iGRF  Clap
Negativity is such a destructive attitude, just enjoy your racing, life is serious enough without taking it sailing with you.
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