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    Posted: 11 May 18 at 12:35pm
He’s talking sh*te as usual - I don’t know one D-Zero sailor who grumbles about the handicap, frankly they don’t give a damn and are too busy waiting to race them properly - against other D-Zeros and Aeros over the line.
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Originally posted by iGRF

The D0 got screwed by the same mafia that took out the Icon and keeps the Blaze and Laser in bandit world, The RS300 should carry a health warning alongside the 200, 600 & 700. The D1 nice boat that it is, is a FatFinnBoys Barge, very powerful, The RS100 been there done that eventually managed to get back into it with the aid of a rescue boat the inshore and half the RNLI..it's another big boys barge. The Vario now do we really want to talk about the Vario going upwind, what else have we got to do with the rest of our lives?

While i've been doing this I've found what's required. We need a super light foil shaped cassette up the forestay that will act not unlike a small jib, within it we need a furled gennika made of cuben fibre, it's 50 gms per sq mtr so not as light as spinnaker cloth but lighter than normal jib cloth and it'll take a lot to rip or put holes in it. Should be capable of fitting to any boat you wish that carries a forestay.

I had a little gap in my sailing career due to kids and starting a business which probably coincided with the emergence of this mafia you mention - can you share more details?!?
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that's far too complicated... you just need one of these... ;-)


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The D0 got screwed by the same mafia that took out the Icon and keeps the Blaze and Laser in bandit world, The RS300 should carry a health warning alongside the 200, 600 & 700. The D1 nice boat that it is, is a FatFinnBoys Barge, very powerful, The RS100 been there done that eventually managed to get back into it with the aid of a rescue boat the inshore and half the RNLI..it's another big boys barge. The Vario now do we really want to talk about the Vario going upwind, what else have we got to do with the rest of our lives?

While i've been doing this I've found what's required. We need a super light foil shaped cassette up the forestay that will act not unlike a small jib, within it we need a furled gennika made of cuben fibre, it's 50 gms per sq mtr so not as light as spinnaker cloth but lighter than normal jib cloth and it'll take a lot to rip or put holes in it. Should be capable of fitting to any boat you wish that carries a forestay.
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Originally posted by H2

They have stopped making RS300 and George won the d0's because he is one of the better sailors in the country - he just happens to be a big lad (but not sure he is 95kg...not sure I want to really ask that). If you reckon that you can be an average club sailor and make a D0 go to handicap then I think you are bonkers!

The 300 is still in build by the Boatyard at Beer and has come back under the auspices of the umbrella RS Class Association.

George had some very stiff competition at times at the nationals but was more consistent than his rivals plus the fleet at his home club is at a very high standard (so it is all relative at club level).
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Originally posted by H2

I do agree with you Graeme that there are some great Una rig boats that are now available but until the H2 came along there was not a modern design / material boat for the sailor that weighed more than a racing snake. If you were taller or heavier than 85kg then you were limited to a Phantom, Blaze (sea boat) or Finn, perhaps an OK or Solution at a push but an Aero and D0 were still tilted toward the skinner sailer. The boat shown by Cirrus looked to me like it might carry a bigger person and be a slippery design - hence able to be of interest to me as a H2 sailor who at the moment has few choices.

And an RS300. And a 95kg sailor won the D-Zero Nationals last year.

Correct, and it wasnt exactly windy either (max gust was around 9 knots over the 3 days).
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They have stopped making RS300 and George won the d0's because he is one of the better sailors in the country - he just happens to be a big lad (but not sure he is 95kg...not sure I want to really ask that). If you reckon that you can be an average club sailor and make a D0 go to handicap then I think you are bonkers!
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Originally posted by H2

I do agree with you Graeme that there are some great Una rig boats that are now available but until the H2 came along there was not a modern design / material boat for the sailor that weighed more than a racing snake. If you were taller or heavier than 85kg then you were limited to a Phantom, Blaze (sea boat) or Finn, perhaps an OK or Solution at a push but an Aero and D0 were still tilted toward the skinner sailer. The boat shown by Cirrus looked to me like it might carry a bigger person and be a slippery design - hence able to be of interest to me as a H2 sailor who at the moment has few choices.

And an RS300. And a 95kg sailor won the D-Zero Nationals last year.
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I do agree with you Graeme that there are some great Una rig boats that are now available but until the H2 came along there was not a modern design / material boat for the sailor that weighed more than a racing snake. If you were taller or heavier than 85kg then you were limited to a Phantom, Blaze (sea boat) or Finn, perhaps an OK or Solution at a push but an Aero and D0 were still tilted toward the skinner sailer. The boat shown by Cirrus looked to me like it might carry a bigger person and be a slippery design - hence able to be of interest to me as a H2 sailor who at the moment has few choices.
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Originally posted by iGRF

Sometimes I feel like a big Cod that's accidentally been swept into a pond in a flood and the tides gone out listening to you lot.. How many una rigs do you need? It's one area that is entirely catered for and now with some truly excellent boats, Aero, D Zero, Solution, H2, to name just four that immediately spring to mind but us light sea dwellers albeit seasonal sea dwellers do want some sort of turbo assist for those long dreary processional legs infested with Laser. Tell me, what exactly is there for us? Nowt, Nada, Niet. If the current kite system doesn't work why doesn't someone come up with an alternate that does, screecher furler brought up to date springs to mind. Kites are bloody useless tearing ripping things with holes in them why not some thin gauge cuben fibre stuff cassetted..Or some dangly pole driven symmetric deal might work I did have a drawing for one somewhere didn't we talk about it some while back?

Ummm...RS100, D-1, Vareo.....probably others?
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