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    Posted: 28 Mar 18 at 8:12pm
Peaky is right. No matter what hardware is used the actual game is fleet racing, the Laser would cover all the male and female single handed aspects (heavy athletes will reduce their weight to compete or do something else)
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Half the trouble is that the message they get from the IOC keeps changing.
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WS need to be clear whether they want to categorise events by weight, number of crew, performance or whatever. At the moment there is an incoherent mishmash of classes shoehorned into arbitrary events, but only one true 'event' (fleet racing).   Any debate about the classes is pointless without understanding what you are trying to achieve.
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I don't think we should apologise for being a 1st world country and the benefits that come with it, neither should expensive sports that 3rd world countries can't afford be banned from olympics.
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A kite is not unlike a spinnaker. 
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Originally posted by JimC

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Kiting is not 'sailing', or if it is then so is skydiving. For a sport to be sailing it has to use sails as the means of propulsion  Confused


You can argue against that. Like conventional sailing kiting is using the difference in movement between the ground and the air to control speed and direction. The basic physics is much the same. Skydiving is about gravity and air. Its really very different.

Of course you can  Wink you probably guessed I was being a little provocative.........

But however you look at it a kite is much closer to a parachute than it is to a sail........
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Kiting is not 'sailing', or if it is then so is skydiving. For a sport to be sailing it has to use sails as the means of propulsion  Confused


You can argue against that. Like conventional sailing kiting is using the difference in movement between the ground and the air to control speed and direction. The basic physics is much the same. Skydiving is about gravity and air. Its really very different.
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Originally posted by Dougaldog

maybe if WS were a little stricter on what actually comprises an international class the picture would be a little clearer.

Its hard to think of many classes that are widely popular worldwide without having had the Olympics as a focus. Most classes are regional to a greater or lesser extent, and need a few outliers to qualify as International classes. Its especially striking in keelboat classes. You'll see mainly commonwealth, mainly americas, mainly european, some that have two of the three but few all 3.

Exactly; the Finn enjoys international support because it has been Olympic equipment for 70 years ... not because it is a Finntastic design ...

Make any other class Olympic for 70- years and you get the same ...
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

Kiting is not 'sailing', or if it is then so is skydiving. For a sport to be sailing it has to use sails as the means of propulsion  Confused

haha - for me, 'kiting' will always be synonymous with windward heel downwind on a large wetted surface area hull form.  I first had a go at in a optimist age 8.... no Olympic slot will change what the term means to me!
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Originally posted by Dougaldog

maybe if WS were a little stricter on what actually comprises an international class the picture would be a little clearer.

Its hard to think of many classes that are widely popular worldwide without having had the Olympics as a focus. Most classes are regional to a greater or lesser extent, and need a few outliers to qualify as International classes. Its especially striking in keelboat classes. You'll see mainly commonwealth, mainly americas, mainly european, some that have two of the three but few all 3.

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