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    Posted: 28 Mar 18 at 9:28am
The Finn lobby pulled off a bit of a master stroke when they got their event reclassified as the Heavyweight event thus putting clear ground between the Finn and Laser. 
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Originally posted by GarethT

The IKA have had 5 years since the 2012 debacle and haven't managed to up the female participation numbers internationally.

First they get told they're in the Olympics, cue all the RYA and other MNA coaches switching to become kite coaches and all the other established gravy trainers suddenly become expert kiting gravy trainers having done nothing for the sport, then, they get dropped and oh look where have all the gravy trainers gone..

So tell me again what's the incentive to develop the organised side of the sport?

Most of kiting is ex windsurfing and we all remember how badly we got f**ked over the last time, so in reality we couldn't give a rats ass for the Olympics, me I'm just mucking about for the entertainment of giving debate (and winning it in my view)

The Finn won't be dropped especially now it's reached a point when it should be by all modern reason and logic.

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Old Timer, you're being selective with your Europe statistics there.  There were 137 of the things racing in Torbole just yesterday.  Never a big class in the UK; we got 19 at our nationals last year.

The future of the Finn post-Olympics could look a lot like the Europe.  It will always be a sophisticated singlehander for the heavyweight Masters sailor in the same way that the Europe suits youth sailors.  Both have a niche they can fill.  In the Europe class we're now down to a single mast builder and one hull builder.  Prices haven't dropped but the rate of kit purchasing has, so there isn't so much money for suppliers to chase.  There are still a good number of sailmakers to choose from and that's where most development continues.

Personally I hope that the Finn keeps its slot.  They look great on the telly and I enjoy watching them a lot more than crash and burn racing.
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The IKA have had 5 years since the 2012 debacle and haven't managed to up the female participation numbers internationally.
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They've had what? Fifty, no, nearly seventy years to establish the Finn around the world, hows that gone for them?

Looking at the gold medal winners they all seem to come from mainland europe with one NZ exception, all first world, and the Finn is a first world problem.

Give me five years and access to all the reservoirs in Europe and see how many kite racers I could organise.

No room for us until you all get out of the way.

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Originally posted by turnturtle



First and foremost, I think it's a bit difficult to justify why the Olympics needs the Laser and the Finn - they test the same broad on-the-water sailing skillsets- albeit with slight difference in optimum weight, about what, 15kg?  This is nothing in terms of what elite athletes can do to optimise their body for any given sporting pursuit - especially over a 4 year cycle.  


This. Small differences in the choice of class is not variety. There is more potential for variety in race formats that choice of chariot.
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They had 6 women enter at their worlds last year (Steph was 4th).

Not quite got the momentum to justify kicking out an established class just yet.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 27 Mar 18 at 6:38pm
Originally posted by GarethT

Women are allowed to race at the international kiting events. They just don't seem to want to.
I think Steph Bridges might give you an argument on that score.

What's the name of our best female Finn Sailor and has she won many world championships like Steph?

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This was taken back in 2005, Kitercross, beat up wind, then jump obstacles on the downwind leg, no holds barred, just the sort of televisual crap they like.



Didn't see any Finns out there either, but then it was 5 years into the twenty-first century..

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Women are allowed to race at the international kiting events. They just don't seem to want to.
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