New Posts New Posts RSS Feed: Olympic Sailing - interesting paper
  FAQ FAQ  Forum Search   Register Register  Login Login

Olympic Sailing - interesting paper

 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 89101112 15>
Author
turnturtle View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 05 Dec 14
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2538
Post Options Post Options   Quote turnturtle Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Topic: Olympic Sailing - interesting paper
    Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 2:18pm
Originally posted by Dougaldog

if they ditch the Finn and fail to replace it with something else for the larger frames/built individuals, what will there be for them to sail?

D


In an increasingly globalised sport (well that's the intention I'm led to believe), then the Laser is already well placed to cope with 'heavy weight men' in global average terms.  Besides, isn't there talk of keelboats?

Back to Top
Dougaldog View Drop Down
Far too distracted from work
Far too distracted from work


Joined: 05 Nov 10
Location: hamble
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 356
Post Options Post Options   Quote Dougaldog Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 12:34pm
Some years ago, back in the days of Dinghy Mag, I was in Hyeres to cover the SOF - French Olympic Week. One day it blew very hard, with a large and confused sea state. I envisaged a day in the dinghy park watching an AP flag but no - the Finns were already launching and heading out. Old they may be and  their heavy weight is a given. But to call a boat slow is strange unless you are comparing it to something else. Nor is the hull shape that stable - predictable maybe, but having sailed one for a while I don't think I'd say it was a stable platform, which made the sailing skills on display that day in Hyeres (and again at Cadiz) all the more impressive. The boat handling abilities seen at the top of the Finn fleet are superb; I can't think of many others who wouldn't have just made it around the course (because most wouldn't have done so) but they were racing nip and tuck all the way. Funnily enough, I think Ed Wright won that event as well and I'll not forget his gybe, off the top of a large wave coming down the run, then a gybe back again that gave him the inside berth at the bottom mark. To say that the top of the fleet, going all the way back to the 1950s are 'legends' is by no means an exaggeration.
And all this from someone who isn't a great lover of the Finn and who has seen that vested interest power lobby operating at first hand........they are certainly well organised. But then again, the points raised in the letter are well made - if they ditch the Finn and fail to replace it with something else for the larger frames/built individuals, what will there be for them to sail?

D

Dougal H
Back to Top
423zero View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 08 Jan 15
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3420
Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 12:25pm
Wow 😲
Back to Top
rich96 View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 20 Jan 05
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 596
Post Options Post Options   Quote rich96 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 12:16pm
Originally posted by Loyboy

No words to respond to your narrow minded view. Don't bother ranting, I am not going to bother to view this forum anymore.


Probably wise

Very sadly most of the serious sailors have already done so and left it to the keyboard warriors to moan and spout utter nonsense most of the time

Shame really
Back to Top
davidyacht View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 29 Mar 05
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 1345
Post Options Post Options   Quote davidyacht Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 11:47am
Originally posted by Loyboy

No words to respond to your narrow minded view. Don't bother ranting, I am not going to bother to view this forum anymore.

Probably for the best; if you don't want to end up bitter and twisted.
Happily living in the past
Back to Top
Loyboy View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 09 Oct 08
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8
Post Options Post Options   Quote Loyboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 11:34am
No words to respond to your narrow minded view. Don't bother ranting, I am not going to bother to view this forum anymore.
Back to Top
iGRF View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 07 Mar 11
Location: Hythe
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 6499
Post Options Post Options   Quote iGRF Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 9:50am
'There are heroes in the Finn Class" FFS talk about delusion..

G-fix I'm with you + 1.
Back to Top
getafix View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more
Avatar

Joined: 28 Mar 06
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 2143
Post Options Post Options   Quote getafix Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 26 Mar 18 at 9:46am
Well, well... the most successful class lobbying system ever in the history of our sport gets ready to wind itself up into a hand-shaking, lunch-date-making, back-scratching and vote winning frenzy once again. Surprised? not really. A brilliant, experienced and well-known Finn sailor questions the 'future of our sport' if it ...wait for it... has the outrageous temerity to drop the Finn from the Olympic side-show that is the once every 4 years naff 'advert' for our sport and great advert for the power of mega-bucks campaign funding versus no-bucks.

Why not be happy with great racing, unbelievably high standards of boat prep and training and a great history and what will be will be when it comes to the side-show? There are so few boats for the larger dinghy sailor I doubt the Finn would die off. I guess the only concern will be from the weekend warriors that the ready supply of barely used and mega-bucks kit filtering down may dry up?
Back to Top
423zero View Drop Down
Really should get out more
Really should get out more


Joined: 08 Jan 15
Location: United Kingdom
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 3420
Post Options Post Options   Quote 423zero Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 18 at 10:46am
Looked good and looked like it could handle worse.
Back to Top
Loyboy View Drop Down
Newbie
Newbie


Joined: 09 Oct 08
Online Status: Offline
Posts: 8
Post Options Post Options   Quote Loyboy Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 25 Mar 18 at 9:27am
The Olympics produce legends who inspire generations to aspire to the highest pinnacle. The Finn, Star, Flying Dutchman, Laser, 470 etc have produced stories that have motivated lesser humans to reach for the stars. To lose, possibly the most influential single handed dinghy, with it's long distinguished tapestry, to the media frenzy of crash and burn sailing, just to appease a wider audience who, quite frankly do not give a damn, would be a travesty. I sail a National Solo but have always seen the Finn as the absolute definitive of what single handed racing is all about. There are heroes in all classes but the Finn has Giants.
Back to Top
 Post Reply Post Reply Page  <1 89101112 15>

Forum Jump Forum Permissions View Drop Down

Bulletin Board Software by Web Wiz Forums® version 9.665y
Copyright ©2001-2010 Web Wiz
Change your personal settings, or read our privacy policy