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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Traditionally, one sends a wave down the rope to uncleat a jib, as lifting the rope in the air often simply doesn't work. Can't see why that would work in this case, too.
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I didn't say anything about the Farr, iGRF did. I just assumed you might be replying to the posts directly above yours in the thread.
Agree, a cleat further away would be good, but in this case for the 800: a) against class rules b) you move around a lot so you'd need a lot of cleats c) it's a self taking jib, so it needs to stay cleated through gybes and tackes whilst you carry the sheet around with you. So I think a swivel and cleat all in one is the only option.
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Nope not talking about the Farr, but in my defence.....where did you say anything about the Farr?!
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Are you talking about the Farr? This would kinda defeat the point of the self tacking jib on the 800. I think part of the problem is distance from the cleat. Say you have to lift the rope by 15 degrees to pull it out of a cleat. At 1m away that mean lifting the sheet 26 cm. Trapezing 4m away and that becomes over a meter that you have to lift he sheet in the air. Add a bit of play in and it becomes a nightmare. The cleat is probably 3-5cm from the turning point, someone with better maths than me could probably calculate how much each mm of wobble is worth when out on the racks trapezing. Edited by mozzy - 12 Mar 18 at 4:53pm |
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rodney ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 26 Feb 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 915 |
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Graeme, why re-invent the wheel? The K1 off boom cleat seems to work well - http://www.vandercraft.co.uk/k1/price.html
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Sorry to jump in - but I have always favoured putting a cleat on the side deck independent of the block. That way its there if you really need it but it stops you using it when you should really be playing the sheet....sorry if this is dumb
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I think the harken stainless plate bends when trodden on which is what makes the cleating less positive. The actual mechanism is a kind of captive stainless plate if memory serves. can't see it being too weary but there is always a fair bit of play in them. You can re- bend the stainless plate easily with mole grips .I ended up cannibalising the harken one and making a custom carbon swivel cleat base which works well.
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Why do you want to cleat the main on a Farr 3.7? Is the boat still having a kite? In that case I guess it would be necessary.
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I'm trying to find a suitable carrier mechanism to try an off boom arrangement for Farrquaad. I like the positive on off action of spinlocks , you know where you are, whereas those other systems can act independently at times when you need it least.
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