Campaigning with electric cars.

I let them tease me about my parsimonious approach to motoring Craiggo... small victories for them masking bigger wins in the toys game for me with things that float on water and snow...

As for tax rants ... I pay corp, income, employer NI, employee NI, benefit on a fuel card, VAT on the toys - nothing ‘above the line’ in narcissistic sponsorship etc. And that’s just the ones I know about and see on an everyday basis... but I don’t whinge or moan, and feel privileged to be able to contribute.   So yes, my own personal bugbear is corporate and elite tax avoidance rather the Government plugging fiscal gaps with fuel and stamp duty (annoying as they are). Aggressive tax avoidance is the root of all ill when it comes to what the Government should have to spend on a responsible 21st century programme of social democracy.

Edited by turnturtle - 30 Nov 17 at 10:01pm

Aggressive tax avoidance is the root of all ill when it comes to what the Government should have to spend on a responsible 21st century programme of social democracy.

Originally posted by PeterG Aggressive tax avoidance is the root of all ill when it comes to what the Government should have to spend on a responsible 21st century programme of social democracy. +1

Well to link Fab100 and Jack, Naomi Klein was on desert island discs this morning... a major influence in my own awakening to the ill intent of globalisation. Also talking about environmental issues ... I will buy her latest book after hearing her talk on the subject.

Edited by turnturtle - 01 Dec 17 at 10:59am

Originally posted by fab100 Originally posted by Jack Sparrow The one sport where I would have immediately thought that the ground swell of support for a environmentally conscious transport future would be inherent, I would have thought, would be sailing. I'm drawn to it precisely 'because' of its use of the natural elements as a form of propulsion. But from what I can see here I've read the landscape completely wrong. Or have I? So am I, but perhaps because of that, my view of the direction of travel (sorry) towards environmentally conscious transport is misguided.  Misguided because the electricity for battery operated cars is still mostly going to come from hydro-carbons for the foreseeable future. Misguided because no economy has the electricity generating capacity to power everyone's vehicles. Misguided because no one has yet come up with a truly decent* battery technology or solar power array. Misguided because wind-farms^ are a flippin' awful idea when there is no easy way to store the output and also, when the country needs energy most, winter and summer, that weather usually coincides with their being no wind. Misleading because, if we did all switch to electric cars, the government would have to find a way to tax that energy usage to generate the same revenue as it does today from petrol and diesel. Not sure a land-yacht would get me up the hill on the way to Frensham though. * which I would define as giving a max 4 year cost payback (not 15-20 years) without any subsidies and does not scar the earth thru industrial mining of rare materials ^ Windfarms that, through inflated energy prices and subsidies transfer wealth from the poor to the land-owning rich. And chop up birds, bats etc and are also blots on the landscape. I'll further bet that, when they become recognised irrelevancies their operators will be special-pleading for subsidies to take them down and dispose of them.