Campaigning with electric cars.

I did - UN approved a standard for micro USB in 2009 - not what my iPhone has many years later.

Originally posted by A2Z Electric cars devalue like crazy and just don't make any sort of financial sense.  They make be quick, cool and spacious, but losing 80% value in three years more than offsets any fuel saving. .

Really?

Thats a massive broad brush statement

Find me a 3 year old Tesla model S for less than 40k.

around 60k new for the base 85Kw model (these are the cheapest 3 year old ones available but the 85 is discontinued) thats about 25% depreciation

On the other hand a 3 year old base 320D BMW is less than 10k - at circa £30-35k new thats over 60%  lost, far more % wise than a Tesla

The BMW will cost more to run over the time period as well

What you mean to say is crap electric cars like the G-Wizz might not make financial sense if you are a private buyer using your own money.

Or for the general public buying ANY new car doesn't make financial sense

But people still buy new cars.

How many people here use their company car/ van/ truck to tow their boat/ caravan/ carry their windsurfing kit?

Depreciation makes no difference to them

Running costs and incentives to the comapny that does own it and paying less tax by the employee for their benefits in kind are what counts

Did you know if you lease or contract hire any fully electric car you can pay for it by salary sacrifice? You pay for it before tax so saves you money and saves NI payments by the company you work for.

Its not all about depreciation when playing with electric cars

Originally posted by Sam.Spoons TBF the only reason big freight ships are 'the big polluters' is 'cos they are orders of magnitude bigger than anything else, cars, trucks or planes. The most efficient (i.e. least polluting) means of transport is rail, ships come next (producing roughly twice the pollution/mile/tonne carried) then road (12 x rail) then air (couldn't find an accurate figure only that it's much word than boats apparently).

don;t forget  how   crappy the  heavy fuel oils  are that you can run  the big slow speed  engines one, basically the crap left  after you;ve refined all the  nice stuff out of the crude  

Edited by zippyRN - 06 Oct 17 at 9:02pm

Like the look of these, real traffic dodger, but won't carry a boat.

Edited by 423zero - 06 Oct 17 at 10:26pm

Originally posted by drifter Forget diesel.

Aaargh........just had my trusty 21 yr old VW T4 body work restored. Can't think of a better vehicle that suits my needs and there doesn't appear to be an electric alternative.

I suspect the autonomous vehicles will not be terribly popular with the private driver.....Too many blokes get nervous when being driven, me included. They're many years away imo. Hauliers will love them though.