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turnturtle 
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 Topic: When is a class dead?Posted: 24 Sep 17 at 11:36pm |
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It isn’t in many sports Sam, especially equipment heavy ones which rely on weather, cash and free time.
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patj
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Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 7:51am |
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Since we have the CVRDA (Classic and Vintage Racing Dinghy Association) to provide racing and support for "Lost Classes" - any class designed before 1985 which does not have a class association or current builder - can any class of that era actually be truly "dead"?
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Old Timer
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Every sport loses youth participants as the transition from living at home and going to school to uni, employment and home ownership ... Especially a sport which is time-consuming and expensive. Having a few popular classes and finishing off the obviously dead ones seems like it would help that ...
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JimC
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Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 1:05pm |
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So lets have a list of "obviously dead" classes you would kill off, and tell us how you would kill them off?
The dead classes have one useful role: because they are dirt cheap to buy they provide a route onto the water for people who don't have any other choices. They do need to appreciate that they probably won't be able to sell of course. |
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Old Timer
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Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 1:14pm |
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Well there are plenty of classes that show little signs of life.
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turnturtle
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Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 1:18pm |
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as Jim says, a list would be handy.... from my own point of view, if it weren't for access to an 'RS600 at Laser money' back in the early 2000's/ my 20's, I'd have binned off sailing a long time ago.... especially if the only option were to sail Lasers and/or Solos.
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423zero
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Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 1:25pm |
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One sure way to put a spark under a quiet class, tell them their boats are banned from all RYA affiliated clubs.
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Old Timer
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Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 1:34pm |
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I am sure we can all see the classes that are inactive ... My point is that if the dead wood could be cleared perhaps the rest would flourish ...
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Cirrus
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Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 1:46pm |
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One sure way to put a spark under a quiet class, tell them their boats are banned from all RYA affiliated clubs ...
Yes and well of course ... what a great idea ! It would certainly boost RYA affiliation by clubs and produce a massive boom in personal memberships as well. All we really need is forceful and strong leadership of the type you suggest, it is after all todays namby pamby elite that is behind the current decline ... Let's make everything just 'Great Again' ...and while we are at it ...etc etc. Edited by Cirrus - 25 Sep 17 at 1:46pm |
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Oinks
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Posted: 25 Sep 17 at 1:52pm |
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The earlier point made by Old Timer regarding the role of the RYA does, I think, have some merit. Whilst I don't think classes should be "deselected" as such, the old "International" and "National" classifications did allow people both already in the sport and beyond to see some sort of structure. And whilst elements on this forum seem to prefer the current anarchic state of affairs, I do actually think the RYA as the sports governing body do have a role to play here. Who else is so well placed to have some sort of oversight? It wouldn't have to be especially heavy handed, but the current free-for-all does not, I think, work to the benefit of the sport as a whole.
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