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    Posted: 06 Aug 17 at 12:00am
1617 new Lasers in 2016 and 20 Bytes - source ISAF annual reports. The Aero seems to be around 2,500 in 3 years, which they must be delighted with, but there's a long way to go to match the Laser.
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Ok, buy a new Supernova or an Aero but would you take your hard earned and buy a Laser??? No one I know would.
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Both boats have their faults and their good points. One has sold in large numbers and one has not. Think that covers everything.  Wink
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Oh for headbands sake! Laser has always been there so it always will be? Nonsense it is now outclassed by other boats and club sailors vote by buying other boats. How many Aeros in championships now after only a few years? I never, have never, presented the Byte as a laser alternative but it is a boat for lighter males, youth and average females. I no longer sail one but my son does and at 10 stone and 30 years has just won his 4th nationals. There were more women entered for the nationals than men. You want to stick an 8 stone girl in a radial? do me a favour, do them a favour! You almost never see the old classic rig racing these days they are all C1 or C2's If you wish to sail a laser then go ahead but their days are numbered!

I corresponded on this forum for many years then got fed up with it. I come back and find the same short sighted comments as before. How many posts on sailing with hip replacements? That says it all.

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Byte sailed by smaller sailors in quite a few countries Laser sailed by all sorts of people in many countries. Both sailed by more people than my favourite boats. Enough of room for all, I hope.
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Oh dear, wish I hadn't said anything. Shouldn't we leave class war to the marxists, who enjoy that sort of thing?
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Originally posted by Sam.Spoons

I think the Byte is no more or less than a smaller Laser (Byte C2 excepted). As such it is neither better or worse than a Laser just suited to smaller sailors.


Right, so the Laser:-

- Over 212,000 boats built to date by several builders around the planet
- Raced competitively in 115 countries inc. National Championship, so pretty much ubiquitous
- Mens' singlehander in 6 Olympic cycles so far
- Ladies' singlehander in 3 Olympic cycles so far
- Boys / Girls singlehander in WS (ISAF) Youth Worlds
- World Championships in Youth, U-21, Mens, Ladies and Masters, with 5 age categories at Masters in both Radial and Standard.
- Regularly attracts 400+ boats to Masters Worlds and 150+ at restricted entry Worlds
- Regional European, North American, South American and Asia Pacific Championships across rigs and age categories
- Lots of clubs around the UK regularly have 20+ boats out racing in club fleets
- I can attend a local Open in the middle of England and race against 50 Lasers.

I don't sail a Laser any longer, and don't care to, but please could you explain to me how exactly the Byte compares to the above....



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I think the Byte is no more or less than a smaller Laser (Byte C2 excepted). As such it is neither better or worse than a Laser just suited to smaller sailors.
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Originally posted by iiiiticki

I was not doing a Byte verses laser thing but a laser verses l the other single handers thing. We have 5 sailing bytes, 3 aeros, 8 Novas and 2 phantoms.phants. Only Lasers are buggered up club ones.


Then may I suggest that your club is a statistical outlier. I don't think that the Laser is a particularly exciting boat but it fulfils a crucial role in international dinghy racing, which can't be underestimated. Consequently the Laser appears certain to be here to stay for many years to come.

To be fair, if the future of dinghy sailing was in something like the Byte then I'd have packed up many years ago. To state that a Byte is a better boat to sail than a Laser is ridiculous.

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Originally posted by iiiiticki

I was not doing a Byte verses laser thing


Much...

Enthusiasm about the sport is a good thing, and so is enthusiasm about the boat you sail, but it could be argued it can be overdone, and its ironic that I now find myself having negative thoughts about a class I've always had a lot of time for.

Edited by JimC - 05 Aug 17 at 6:27pm
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