Fireball Spinnaker Launch system

   When it was (re-)decked, they clearly equipped it with cleat raisers for the guys, so I guess they just used bags under the deck?

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RS400atC Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 04 Dec 08 Online Status: Offline Posts: 3011	Post Options Post Reply Quote RS400atC Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Fireball Spinnaker Launch system Posted: 15 Feb 17 at 9:45am
	When it was (re-)decked, they clearly equipped it with cleat raisers for the guys, so I guess they just used bags under the deck?

Josh14441 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 13 Feb 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Josh14441 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 17 at 9:17am
	MYC is its old club Edited by Josh14441 - 15 Feb 17 at 9:21am

Josh14441 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 13 Feb 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Josh14441 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 17 at 8:57am
	Wow, Thanks everyone for helping me find out more about this boat. There is only 1 hole in the bulkhead but it does look to be in the same place that a chute would be the only thing I can think of is maybe when the previous owner had it re-decked he may not have used the spinnaker and just used the boat for casual sailing I will post some more pictures later on today. Edited by Josh14441 - 15 Feb 17 at 9:37am

Noah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611	Post Options Post Reply Quote Noah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 17 at 8:35am
	The thwart, mainsheet 'tower' and inwhales treatment look very much like my Severn did, but they used almost exclusively Sapele for decks, so I wonder if it was supplied with the hull and interior woodwork but no deck? The UKFA Membership Sec - Ian Castle - can be contacted thru the new website and will hold a copy of the certificate, I think. Are there two holes in the fwd bulkhead, or any evidence of a chute being removed? If so, it could be a redeck...
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Paramedic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paramedic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 15 Feb 17 at 8:17am
	It could be a very late registration of a boat built from a kit. It looks like a single skin hull to me (not foam sandwich), though its hard to tell from the photos. The main builders around that time of composite hulls were Winder - which i dont think yours is - and Severn Sailboats which is possible but it doesn't look like a Severn deck, the cleat blocks are too angular though they could have been fitted later. The coaming on the inside at the back could be a giveaway but you cant really see in the photos. Does it have a builders ticket on it anywhere? If you apply for a measurment certificate that should list the builder and you will not need to get the boat remeasured. The association badges correspond to the sort of time a 14xxx number would have been issued. There one 40 year old Plycraft hull with a 150xx number that sat in a barn unregistered and unfinished for 35 years! Looking at the photo full size the boat looks well kitted out with decent fittings and the boat looks to be solidly built. I just find it strange that they didn't cut the deck out for the bags when it was built after doing such a good job of the rest. Having totally hijacked your thread (Though a mystery boat is always interesting!) i'll say you're doing the right thing cutting the holes for bags. Round the edge off and give it a good resin coating as the halyard and sheets will wear the varnish and eventually the wood away quite quickly. Edited by Paramedic - 15 Feb 17 at 8:28am

Josh14441 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 13 Feb 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Josh14441 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 17 at 9:48pm
	That's strange as I looked up other fireballs and 14442 was described as wooden decks with GRP hull although it could be a different number the number is on the port side of the thwart there were definitley 3 4s and what looked like a 1 in front of it and a 1 or a 7 after it although it looked more like a 1. There are 2 stickers aft in the cockpit saying it was registered to the international fireball association in 1994 and 95, I emailed them trying to find info about it a week or 2 ago but had no response. Thanks for the reply Josh Edited by Josh14441 - 14 Feb 17 at 10:13pm

zippyRN Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437	Post Options Post Reply Quote zippyRN Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 17 at 8:43pm
	as Paramedic says i doubt that is a 144xx boat , looking at the image at the full size it just looks older, much older ... stuff like the wooden chocks for the cleats etc ...

Paramedic Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 27 Jan 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 929	Post Options Post Reply Quote Paramedic Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 17 at 6:36pm
	Hi Josh. that looks much older than the number you suggest. Not that this is a problem as it looks to be a boat you've rescued from an untimely demise. The hull number should be engraved upon the thwart. if its not there it implies that the thwart has been replaced or the hull never issued a number - the former is more likely.

Josh14441 Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Newbie Joined: 13 Feb 17 Online Status: Offline Posts: 11	Post Options Post Reply Quote Josh14441 Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 17 at 12:02pm
	the hole in the foredeck is from the trapeze hook when the previous sailor's crew must have tried to get the spinnaker sheet from under the bow and the hole in the bulkhead is a buoyancy tank hatch and yes there is space to cut holes for bags so i think that is what I will do thanks Edited by Josh14441 - 14 Feb 17 at 12:02pm

Noah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 29 Dec 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 611	Post Options Post Reply Quote Noah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 14 Feb 17 at 11:24am
	Er. Never seen one like that before. Is the hole in the foredeck functional or a repair? There seems to be a hole in the fwd bulkhead. Remains of a kite chute where the foredeck has been replaced, perhaps? However, assuming there is space between the fwd bulkhead and the aft edge of the foredeck, I would look at cutting holes, adding some suitable reinforcement and installing bags, as per the most common system in use today.
	Nick D-Zero 316