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Sam.Spoons 
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 Topic: Monday Laser RantPosted: 03 Dec 16 at 8:13pm |
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I have....... And, incidentally, the Solo fleet matches the Lasers.......
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Rupert
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Posted: 03 Dec 16 at 6:54pm |
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Should have looked harder... |
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Emilio Castelli
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Posted: 03 Dec 16 at 6:43pm |
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Can't seem to find any better boat for the money.... E
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Jamie600
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Posted: 03 Dec 16 at 9:43am |
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Exactly.
Even with all it's faults, there is an awful lot to be said for fleet racing.
I'm even considering switching for that reason. At my new club, I'm enjoying sailing my Solution, which is a much nicer boat to sail, on level terms with the Lasers in the slow handicap.
However, next year the fleets will be rearranged and the Lasers will have their own start, and I will be in the menagerie covering everything from Toppers upwards.
I think I'll find it hard to watch a large Laser fleet battling round while I trudge round on my own, and am genuinely thinking of getting a 'worse' boat purely for the sake of better racing, thus perpetuating the hold Lasers have, as I really can't see the existing Laser fleet switching en masse to Solutions any time soon.
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getafix
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Posted: 03 Dec 16 at 9:01am |
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.... nothing will change, some may say lazy pace of change, others great one design racing, the reality is that even in 2016, when there are many, many "better" boats for the money out there, so many L*sers are still out there that only voting with our feet en masse will ever have any impact. A brave club may one day say "no laser fleet, sorry" but that day, I would guess, is still some way off |
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jeffers
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Posted: 03 Dec 16 at 7:58am |
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The new Mk 2 full rug sails need even more cunningham apparently (if that was possible).
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Paul
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Oatsandbeans
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Posted: 02 Dec 16 at 9:14pm |
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They still do that with the cunningham don't they? I was at a laser training day a few years back and the coach told me to put the cunningham on. My Response was that it was on, he then grabbed the rope and said words to the effect -call that down haul, no this is what I mean by down haul! Put his foot against the bulkhead and used all his strength (with the XD set up), to get it down to the gooseneck. Made the sail shape flat and really easy upwind, but didn't do my brand new sail much good.
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 02 Dec 16 at 8:17pm |
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Yup, about time they changed to a decent rig like the Byte class did with the CII
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Do Different
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Posted: 02 Dec 16 at 8:03pm |
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Yes exactly the XD and mighty kickers are there now as a response to the cobble up of knots people came up with to get around the rules; anybody else read Glenn Burke in the 90s? What a way to treat a sail though, winding the cunningham on down past the gooseneck, ridiculous.
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Sam.Spoons
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Posted: 02 Dec 16 at 7:53pm |
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Lasers have changed over the years, several versions of the sail (which only remain competitive for a season at best), XD kits and super kickers (due to the crap sail and spars). If they were cheap that would be fine but they ain't........
Laser could easily upgrade the bits that wear out as any serious (and semi-serious) racer will change every year or so anyway and keep the durable bits the same. Mylar sail, carbon spars and a bit of freedom to change things that make a Laser horrible for us short ar5es (toe straps primarily) and you'd have a proper 21st century boat.....
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