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zippyRN ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 14 Sep 06 Online Status: Offline Posts: 437 |
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that's the issue ...
someone who is fit enough and has good enough technique can hold onto the same rig as the 'fatties' even if they are a stone or two underweight and any losses upwind are made back off the wind |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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+1 Every sailor has his day, the big guys do well when it blows, the lightweights in marginal conditions and the wily old salt (regardless of weight) when it's light. If we could just get over ourselves and accept we have strengths and weaknesses (both skill and physique related) we might just enjoy the racing whatever the weather.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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There's also the practical point that if tidal stream strength is approaching wind strength then navigation is more or less impossible - and there may be other considerations. If, for instance, your racing fleet has to cross a chain ferry then you do not want to be sailing in conditions where its impossible to get out of the way. But ultimately the object of the exercise is to have fun. If a fleet/club decides that racing below a given wind strength is not fun, and they'd rather be telling tall tales over a beer in the dinghy park, well, who are we to argue? I can recall a fair few occasions when a fleet cheered when the abandon flag went up, but not any when they sighed or booed... |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Absolutely right GRF, a few years ago I trekked all the way to Ullswater one sunny Sunday to be greeted by a perfect 5-6 knot breeze..... racing was cancelled because the f*@!ing Formula boys thought it was too light for their 6 knot minimum. No surprise that Raceboard attendance is 4-5 times that of FW these days (but, sadly, too late to save windsurfing club racing). I raced the Blaze in a drifter on Sunday, battered old original Sobstadt sail, original centre mainsheet, never sailed the beast before.... Had a lovely afternoon, came last in the handicap fleet but was improving by the end and finished in front of the Enterprises and L2k over the water. New sail tomorrow and off the boom sheeting ready to fit..... I'll do better next week (except it's forecast to blow its t!ts off, more in the boats comfort zone but well out of mine)......
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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To be fair, lower wind limits have also been suggested by people who see that the future of the sport is all about spectacular high-speed sailing in ideal conditions. They are just as wrong as the people you mention, but it's a different type of wrong. Sadly, I have to admit I used to advocate lower wind limits for a while as a teenager, for the exact reason you give....it just took me a while to admit that. |
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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I used to go better in the light stuff, and if you've ever met me you'll know I a bit of a lardarse. Now I only think I did so well due to that principle of momentum....
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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What effectively destroyed competitive windsurfing, lower wind limits, then minimum wind speeds, brought about 1 champion for decades, and reduced participation. Parents taking kids to events and nothing happening didn't see them returning too often. It's what killed the Formula Class. Worse thing you can do meddling with the weather, it's the one element everyone has to accept. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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A lower wind limit. Only ever suggested by people unable to concentrate on picking up ultra light gusts and shifts. Just as much of a skill as strong wind sailing, and less weight sensitive. I've known some excellent big boned light wind sailors.
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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Likewise I have lent my Phantom to lightweights when doing duty and they have promptly cleaned up.
Anyway there is actually a solution to this that has been used for windsurfers for years - a lower wind limit. Good to see the Aero class has separated out people sailing different rigs into each individual class. |
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gordon1277 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 665 |
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Hi Peter
Not in an Aero but a certain Simon Hawkes lent his Phantom to his son Ben for a light wind starcross steamer and did really well whopping all the normal size guys. Raking rigs We are not allowed to adjust the shrouds in a Phantom but once the breeze is up we rake and rely on Kicker and lowers to keep the mast upright. It works a treat. |
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