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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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But that wasn't the point that Jeffers was making. I sail a Phantom cause I'm heavy. Someone else will sail a Solution cause they are light. This is exactly what you are saying and I agree. All we are saying is the allowing multiple rigs effectively reduces the optimum weight range of the boat. If that wasn't the intention (reducing weight range), which I don't think it was, then it has created an unintended consequence. |
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JohnJack ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 12 Mar 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 246 |
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Classes such as Merlin's and Scorpion very effectively deport through taking their mast back.
With a one string system fitted it is as easy as adjusting kicker. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Big cruising yachts dispense sail out of the mast. Trouble is, the masts have to be dead straight all the time, or the furling gear jams. Not good in a dinghy. Not great in a yacht, but easy if performance isn't what you are after.
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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18ft Skiffs do it
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Happily living in the past
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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It's about time there were variable size rigs, it is the damned twenty-first century, if the mast thing dispensed more or less sail according to our requirement, less upwind, more downwind, less for small folk more for large then you wouldn't have to have this discussion and it would hardly be rocket science to do it. A shame this sport is stuck in the dark ages.
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Oinks ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 24 Oct 14 Location: Bandol Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
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Its an interesting debate...but one that has been going on for circa 20 years and the arguments remain the same...IF you sail a singlehanded boat.
This doesn't apply to double-handers. I can't think of any (but that's just me)double-handers where you can just chop and change rigs on the day. Maybe this is the thing...sail a double hander. And if you're light, just get your pie eating mate to jump in and pull the strings. No reason to need a whole rig change. Anyway, singlehanded sailing is over-rated IMHO :) |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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Wot 'e sez :) I was trying to say much the same thing but far less eloquently.....
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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And what about mid weight sailors? Sounds like they should be perfectly suited?
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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This is not logic that stretches the mind of most surely.... 'Larger' helms have the edge in some conditons and 'smaller' helms in others. When each switch each way is up to them. If the balance of the 'rig range' favours the 'heavies' or vice versa that is of course a factor that needs some thought - but that will vary from class to class.
If any individual does not like any particular rig range with a class - well that is life and you do have plenty of choice if you really don't like what is in offer. No different really from any single sail class - but more get to sail for more of the time. Edited by Cirrus - 13 Nov 16 at 6:45pm |
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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And as the wind gets lighter, the lightweights can also have the big rig. Most heavy sailors will need the biggest rig in up to 20 knots. Below that lighter sailors can start changing up as well. Most sailing conditions mean that the big sailor is only ever using the one rig. Hence they don't get the advantage of multi rigs. |
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