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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Did Tynemouth in the 12's ... remember the Air Sea Rescue Helecopters on the course. Sadly my favourite boatbuilder is no longer there ... |
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Happily living in the past
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sawman ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 04 May 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 205 |
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we are still here, and its still a great venue - come again soon! |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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I plan to.... hammer and sickle on the sh*tty Dacron MkII radial cut next year ? Edited by turnturtle - 11 Nov 16 at 6:24pm |
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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Can't you? I know folks who sold modest dinghies and are racing cruisers on a far cheaper budget.... horses for course!
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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However the boat was not sold to be raced like this IIRC. It was on the same model as Laser 4.7, Radial and Full rig. I.e. 3 different classes not 1 class with multiple rigs. So the 5 at youth and diminutive sailors, the 7 at most of the sailing population and the 9 at the larger (or gung ho) guys. Fair play had the class be launched as 1 class with 3 sail sizes but it was understood more to be 3 classes. Plus you really cannot compare finghy racing with big boat racing until you get up to the levels of stuff like 18 footers with their varying rig sizes (which the class rules cater for).
I stand by what I said. As for 1 sail for all conditions, I know 1 dinghy that does it very nicely thank you and performs well across most conditions. |
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Multiple rigs ... well all sorts of opinions here. However if a class goes for multiple ones under a common PN why the problem ? Better than having people going to B&Q 'cos the wind is too light/heavy today surely .... or believing the boat only suits 'big' guys or vice versa. You commit a fair bit of money to a half decent boat, are enthusiastic but have an otherwise busy life, can't sail every weekend and now when you can .. the wind 'is not right'. Why ? Often only because some purists in your class insist 'well it is only fair'... and 'it keeps the cost down'.
You don't have to accept it. Get into a class that allows rig flexibility if that is what you want - whether racing on a common PN or on varying one. Does not matter which really ... just getting in some MORE sailing is the point and more sailing should equal more enjoyment, value for money etc. So you now might have say TWO sails ... again so what ? Lead mines often have a whole wardrobe of the things, boards ditto. Sailing is an equipment based sport - you can't get away from it. It is not fair either that some crews replace their sails every 5 minutes either .... or that other classes have or allow different cuts for varying conditons and so on using the same logic. But imo it can be argued that effectively denying others a bit more time on the water that multiple rigs can permit is not fair in the first place... But either way - we all have choice. However some seem to think 'others' should do as 'they' do rather than just being happy that others might be getting more out of their sailing - in a different manner. |
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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Sounds like you need a bit of socialist sailing jimbo
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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turnturtle ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2538 |
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yep, I can quite imagine the response when asked to peel to the Number 2 Genoa, I'd asked the owner if our own class rules permitted it first, and secondly, wouldn't it be a little unfair on the poor chap behind us who could only afford one new sail this season....
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GML ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 24 Jul 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 94 |
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Hear! Hear!
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Changing sail area to suit the conditions has been part of sailboat racing for a very long time. In many ways our current insistence on hoisting the same rag in 3 knots and 30 is bizarre in the extreme. |
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