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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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Blazes have been in epoxy for over a decade now -
there is no reason therefore why a 10 year old boat should still not be on
standard weight – every hull is weighted and correctors added to bring up to
standard weight. It might be of interest to some to know that for more than
half the life of the Blaze class now epoxy has been used. They have
always been fully foamed in terms of construction as well in both polyester and epoxy and don't
generally 'go soft' with time, Polyester boats, and this includes
earlier Blazes can put on weight through moisture take-up. But not all will have done so if they are regularly
washed out with fresh water and thoroughly dried over a few weeks (try a
boiler house - it really does work !!) . The best polyester boats can
still be around standard weight today - and the nationals results in recent
years do include polyester examples right to the very top. Are there a
few aging polyester clunkers' around ? - almost certainly just as there
are in most classes. Some could be 'bought back' with a bit of TLC
and can be become a very cost-effective entry boat for those prepared to put in some
effort. Edited by Cirrus - 24 Aug 16 at 4:13pm |
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Steve411 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Sep 08 Location: Cheddar, Somerset, England Online Status: Offline Posts: 705 |
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I'm sure that's right. However, a couple of years ago we had a discussion with Richard Woof, the original builder of the RS300, at one of our events. He had his build bible with him and of the six or seven owners participating, all of their boats were within 1kg of each other when they came out of the mould.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Don't make the assumption that all members of a class - even a SMOD - will be the same weight...
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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I'll weigh my Spice 'all up' today and publish, possibly a tin rig Phantom too. Not going to risk my £10 Tesco scales under the Wayfarer though
![]() Did you actually weigh a Buzz BTW (published weight according to Noble's dinghy database is 5kg more than Spice....... different weighing methods maybe?)?
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transient ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 21 Aug 12 Online Status: Offline Posts: 715 |
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How does the actual weight of a modern Blaze compare with say a 10 yr old one?
I see RS have changed the published weight figures for the 200. It used to be the figure without fittings, now with. Good job I say.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Did the scales survive?
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Firefly 2324, Puffin 229, Minisail 3446 Mirror 70686
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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I don't suppose you ever weighed a Spice?
No opportunity - but guess it cannot possibly lighter than a Buzz ... ![]() |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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That definitely makes it a contender (small 'c'
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Cirrus ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Oct 15 Location: UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 590 |
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The official Blaze min weight is 72kg - This includes centreboard, wing system, all lines and corrector weights (where required) etc but this excludes rudder assembly and rig. Lose all the 'bits & pieces' and a bare hull ready for fitout was approx 51-53kg. Could we have made them lighter ? Sure - but there are always implications.
All up sailing weight ? Not routinely measured but it can't be much more than 80/82kg... and these are REAL weights btw. When the boat was built by Cirrus we weighted a range of other classes at one stage to really see what was what - many with claimed lower weights ... well you have to don't you and so could a few on this forum if they really wanted to know ... ![]() Edited by Cirrus - 23 Aug 16 at 6:36pm |
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Sam.Spoons ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 12 Location: Manchester UK Online Status: Offline Posts: 3401 |
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What is the actual all up sailing weight of a Blaze? Great looking boat too BTW, another one I've fancied for a while but I get the impression they are a handful in a reasonable blow for lightweights? Also the quoted hull weight is only 13 kg less than my Spice (though the unarig will save a few kgs over my 3 sail rig as will the carbon stick if I could afford one).
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