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Neptune ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 08 Jun 09 Location: Berkshire United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1314 |
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Depends what boat you are sailing really, but in my Musto, in 25+plus my routine would be:
1) OMG i have to gybe 2) ok, think... more speed 3) ease main out to corner of the rack 4) raise myself on the wire 5) slack out the new kite sheet (yes ok, too much over 25 and its in the chute still) 6) Speed 7) bear away, unhook from trapeze 8) move across boat 9) as boom twitches, tiller is centralized and all body weight on new wing - if not swimming 10) hook on sheet on, back onto the wire 11) foot loop and bring main back in for speed 12) ease out kite again and start giggling and screaming as boat takes off ![]() |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Agreed, I might be using it entirely wrongly, so the term I need describes a windward capsize after the gybe which is precisely opposite of what normally happens. We have a useful term in windsurfing I think I might apply, it's called a monkey gybe. |
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Ardea ![]() Groupie ![]() Joined: 06 Oct 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 70 |
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This technique works well in ents, fireflies etc, something where you will struggle to get the boat fast enough to unload the main. As a crew you just give a heave back the way it came as the boom passes the centreline and starts to load up. There's really not to much of a knack to it. Probably wouldn't recommend this on more modern lightweight boats, but in reluctant planers with heavy booms it can really help calm gybes.
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craiggo ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 01 Apr 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1810 |
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In a hiking singlehander in a big breeze, try oversheeting considerably pre-gybe. You should still have enough power to keep the boat moving quickly. As you start the gybe pull the falls across and as the boom then comes across let the mainsheet run out.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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The term Chinese gybe is an odd one. In the olden, pre-kicker days, it meant that the boom skied, letting the top of the sail gybe before the bottom had. In the Volvo race they were using it for a gybe where the boat gets pinned on its side, which I'm sure is something else.
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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Never involve the chinese.. who come the moment you inadvertently let go the mainsheet in the EPS.
I have no problem double handed, I don't have a big problem with the Solution, but the bloody EPS can be a total bitch and I have yet to find a cast iron system for really windy, other than don't bother going out in waves, what with the racks digging in and the rig chinese gybing me in to weather, it is the boat I swim from most often. |
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jaydub ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 06 Jan 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 267 |
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In Ents with aft mainsheets, you had to wait until the leach started to twitch before getting crew to yank the boom. I used to hate run to run gybes when it was really windy.
The 200 can be twitchy, but it's a much easier to gybe than the Ent ever was. No idea how centre mains in Ents has affected things.
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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I hate that. The boom won't come, then bang, over it goes, and over the boat goes. I can see some logic to a nanosecond of stopping, or at least controlling it, in the middle, though, but the timing would have to be amazing, so there is no pressure on either side of the sail. Bit like stopping when going DDW in follow my leader.
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PeterG ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 12 Jan 08 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 823 |
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In a two hander as forward hand I've always thrown the boom across as soon as it was physically possible so that it goes early, maybe even before the boat reached DDW
I'd agree, getting the boom over late is one of the surest ways to end in the water. The earlier you can get it over the better
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Seems like an odd thing to do... In a two hander as forward hand I've always thrown the boom across as soon as it was physically possible so that it goes early, maybe even before the boat reached DDW. That minimises the slam as the sail goes across and means the boat is still going as fast as possible which minimises the point loads even more.
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