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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Not true. Classes seem to have a definite lifespan, albeit variable, and the list of what's popular now is different from ten years ago. |
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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Perhaps you may wonder if the lifespan of a class is inversely proportional to it's specialised nature.
edit add. Also perhaps classes that permit gradual evolution last longer than SMOD particularly those at the extreme end. Hence the original post, give the 600 some free rein. Edited by Do Different - 06 Dec 15 at 8:24am |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Never seen any particular evidence of it. Some of the oldest surviving classes are one design. |
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Maybe the quality of the racing is more important that the ultimate performance of the boat, particularly with "me too" classes, such as the Merlin and Solo. The old classes that have or are foundering are those that have lost momentum. Momentum is underrated IMO. Once you have lost it, it is difficult to regain. The successful new classes have identified niches and sold well executed products into these niches ... I am thinking RS400, RS200, Musto Skiff. The old classes and the successful new classes all benefit from decent residual values and the availability of decent second hand entry level boats.
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iiiiitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 May 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
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Perhaps there are 'backbone' classes. The 505 and the Contender just look right, they always did look right and they always will look right a bit like Bentley R type Continental by Mulliner or E type Jaguar. However you can't drive or sail the same thing for ever as we have to bend to fashion or technological progress. In the case of cars they just become fantastically expensive but with those boats which are just 'so right' they go on forever luckily for us!
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Jeepers ![]() Posting king ![]() Joined: 26 May 11 Location: Hamphire Online Status: Offline Posts: 147 |
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I'm not sure the 505 and Contender classes are backbone classes in the UK anymore. At their respective Nationals in 2015, 33 and 37 entries doesn't put them in the backbone category for me. Yes, they're still around after all these years but so are Norfolk Punts and International Canoes. Don't deny they're great boats but have they got this "momentum"? Not so sure they have in recent years. I don't think either have sent anyone to the Endeavour for some years now, for example.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Think that says more about the state of the Endeavour trophy than about the classes. The IC, BTW, has not the slightest interest in ever being a mass market class, but I have a suspicion that more have been built in the last 5 years than any other 5 year period in at least the last 100 years. |
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iiiiitick ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 19 May 15 Online Status: Offline Posts: 240 |
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Perhaps 'backbone' was the wrong word...try 'sinew running through'.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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A Backbone class....I would suggest probably the Laser. love it or hate it it is probably still the biggest selling worldwide class and has seen off numerous pretenders to its crown. Thinks may be a changing with the advent of the Aero/Zero but both boats have a very long way to go before they can even be considered to be part of the world wide sailing fabric.
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Do Different ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 26 Jan 12 Location: North Online Status: Offline Posts: 1312 |
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"The IC, BTW, has not the slightest interest in ever being a mass market class, but I have a suspicion that more have been built in the last 5 years than any other 5 year period in at least the last 100 years."
Well yes and why not for any other class that people choose to enjoy be it developing a Cherub, building a new National 18 or dragging an RS600 out of the nettles for a 2nd life.
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