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    Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 8:26pm
The olympic commity are people from all over the woujld it is not the people that are hosting it to decid what boats to use
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Spot192 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 8:29pm
yes i know, but what i meant was when the laser is in the one who sells laser earns more money. that´s a bit like it seems to me after the out of the europe.
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ISAF "bent the rules" for both the 49er and the Tornado sport so no reason why they coudn't do it again.

However, they have said that they will now only accept submissions from ISAF recognised classes - the 10 year comment above is incorrect.

Most of the new classes such as RS have had minimal international penetration despite some wild claims and as such can't attain ISAF status.

To get that you need fleets of 20 or more boats in 4 countries in the same continent or 3 fleets of 20 boats spread accross 2 continents.

If you have a look at the page below you will see that the Musto Skiff is very international in flavour and that this year the class will have enough boats spead around the globe to achieve ISAF international requirements (there are of course others but the number of boats is the key issue).

http://www.mustoskiff.com/sailors-database.htm

No reason why the Musto Skiff could not be submitted for the 2012 games; perhaps in the UK!!!

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Originally posted by guytoon

Actually you have few chance to get a RS boat outside UK and poor esperance to buy a musto outside Europe.

Musto Skiff dealer network is pretty wide ...

http://www.mustoskiff.com/contact-devoti.htm

I know that France is one of the more conservative countries when it comes to adopoting new skiff classes, ISAF recognition will help the class in these contries.

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this year the class will have enough boats spead around the globe to achieve ISAF international requirements




Recognised status a way off yet according to my reading with just two countries with 20 boats. Good luck achieving it, but be careful - the Buzz and ISO got as far as recognised status and the classes immediately died off and asked for it to be removed as they no longer qualified!



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Originally posted by JimC

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this year the class will have enough boats spead around the globe to achieve ISAF international requirements




Recognised status a way off yet according to my reading

Read again Jim .... a few more boats in Germany and Spain and there will be 4 countries with fleets over 20 boats, plus the USA dealer has just taken another 4.

10 years ago the rules for ISAF Recognition and International class status were differenet to now.

Now ISAF requires that the fleet numbers can be verified.

As for the ISO and Buzz I can't comment ...

 

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Originally posted by Guest#260

ISAF "bent the rules" for both the 49er and the Tornado sport so no reason why they coudn't do it again.

Rules wern't bent for Tornado......  Class rules changed after pressure from ISAF and IOC to bring the Tornado up with the times or it will be dumped in favour of a new generation spinn cat.

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yes but they had to bend the ruls to get the new tornado with the kit in so quik
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Originally posted by 5420

yes but they had to bend the ruls to get the new tornado with the kit in so quik


I wouldn't say so. Same class, just a rule change. Classes have rule changes all the time. The fact that this rule change was quite significant and practically forced on the class after ISAF threatened to use the Sailing Intructions to vary the class rules for the Olympics is neither here nor there. The selected catamaran remains the Tornado: nothing has changed. The rules were followed to the letter. *In theory* the Finn Class rules could be changed this November so that the boat bore a suprising resemblance to a Musto skiff or whatever and it would still be the Finn and still the Olympic Class for Beijing.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote 5420 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 05 at 2:49pm
there will be no new boats for the olympic untill 2012 and they will be chosen after the 2008 olympics
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