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    Posted: 22 Mar 05 at 9:25pm
Great idea, Garry.  I'll use it with some of the newer racers at Bough Beech.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mike278 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 05 at 6:04pm
To improve your skills i would say you should race as it makes you think about everything to get the best out the boat, so you should improve quicker, and most club racing is friendly enough so people shouldn't be to annoyed if you occasionly get in their way.  
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Garry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 05 at 6:03pm
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You only need to know about 3 basic rules and some common sense to start racing.

If the start line is crowded start about 10 seconds back from every one else. Easiest way is at the startboard end of the line after everyone is lining up reach down to leeward behind everyone and then as the gun goes harden up into a space. You will be at the back, but not too far back. You can then follow the fleet round, so you get a course to steer and you can see how many of the slower boats you can overtake. pictures worth a thousand words (no rude comments about my artistic skills please )




I would advise anyone starting racing until they have built up their confidence to:

  • Leave a couple of boat lengths between you and anyone to leeward
  • and the essential rules - Same tack windward boat keeps clear
  • Port gives way to starboard
  • At a mark give the inside boat plenty of room and until you're happy with close quarters handling go wide (or slowdown)rather than trapped in the middle of a bunch (in fact if a big bunch is at a mark slow is often faster even for experienced racers)


You could also buy an understanding the rules book - Bryan Willis is fairly straightforward but there are lots available. Don't buy the actual rules because you can download them for free and if you're not familar with the interpretations they'll seem like gobblydegook anyway.

You could also get one of the better sailors at your club to helm for a few races for you so you get a feel for what's going on. Anticipation is the key to avoiding incidents (and, as I'm sure Redback will confirm, the faster your boat the more you have to anticipate).

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yeah, I would say race. But it is upto personal choice. Also I see you have chosen cont. jib sheets.  if they are too much trouble they can always be cut into two.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote redback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 05 at 5:29pm

Talking as someone who always races and almost never cruises (you couldn't in a 4000 anyway).  I'm always keen to encourage people to race and very tolerant of their mistakes.  Cruising is OK but there is nothing like the pressure of competition to drive yourself to higher levels of achievement, and frankly achievement is what gives the greatest satisfaction.

So Headfry, please race, you've bought a beautiful racing machine, I'm sure other racers will be helpful and tolerant and you will enjoy the boat so much more.

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Post Options Post Options   Quote headfry Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 22 Mar 05 at 9:31am
Thanks a million (again) for the invalueable help.  Think we will go for cont. jib sheets.

Redback, yes we will have a go at racing, but we don't want to mess with the good guys and spoil their racing    so we have to advance our skills first   then we will  go for it!!   Still can't believe I have a boat, wanted this from the age of 11! 

Hope to have a go at rigging her over Easter (should be fun), and if weather is calm, then it's out on the water for us!     or in the water for us!! 

Wishing you all "happy sailing over the Easter hols."
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Post Options Post Options   Quote Mike278 Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 7:18pm
though continuous jib sheets have advantages, it also comes down to personal preferance (i prefer seperate jib sheets).
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Post Options Post Options   Quote redback Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 6:30pm

I agree continous sheets are best.  Also good in a 400 is for the crew to tack with your back to the mast.  That way it keeps your weight forward and you don't have to duck so low since you bum fits nicely into the triangle formed by the kicker.  The jib sheets fall nicely to hand also. 

I know Headfry is probably not that interested in racing but if you are you still have to be able to tack facing forward because at the windward mark it is still required.  When tacking close to the mark you have to be able to tack, sit out hard (and slightly more aft than normal to keep the bow out)  for the bear away and then get the pole out and on completion of the bear away raise the kite.  To do that and not get completely dizzy requires a forward facing tack.  Incidentally another racing tip is don't sit on the thwart - I know its comfortable there but its too far aft unless it blowing a bit - in which case you should be sitting out!

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Post Options Post Options   Quote KnightMare Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 5:43pm
Also I tend to hike holding onto my sheets so that I have somehting to pull back on and if worst comes to worst you can uncleat everything. If you havce continuous sheets it is easy to get hold of the 'leeward' sheet as it is attached to the end of the one you have next to you.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote moomin Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 21 Mar 05 at 3:48pm
I would say continuous sheets are a must on the 400 loose ends inside the boat will get caught and tangled and it also means the helm can get hold of them to adjust if the crew is having to concentrate on the kite.  I tie both end to the jib so there are no loose ends or knots inside the boat.  Also not going to come undone as they might if you just tie the two ends together.
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