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Rupert 
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Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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 Topic: The State of Club SailingPosted: 30 Jun 15 at 1:02pm |
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Interesting statement... the waters get muddier. Glad I'm not involved.
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laser47
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 1:56pm |
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I'm glad other people have commented on it because it's always irked me! There is someone responsible for promoting Dinghy Racing in this country but apparently just about no-one knows who. From a PR perspective it's pretty basic practice that - at the very least - press, other comms people in their industry and active key stakeholders should know who to talk to. It's not good that no-one else seems to have a clue and the only reason I do is because I interviewed a while back for their previous position. Edited by laser47 - 30 Jun 15 at 1:58pm |
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kneewrecker
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 2:02pm |
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I know one of the Press Officers at the RYA - she gives away ducks like your profile photo laser47.... they're less horny and say, 'I love Sailing' on them. This appears to be part of a programme actively targeting existing sailors - not something which should be overlooked, surely it would have been easier for Bewl to hang on to 600ish already in membership, rather than train 600 up from scratch.... it's not like many of today's kids are reading Swallows and Amazons... they're too busy down the Archery club giving in to their inner-Katniss.
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laser47
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 2:14pm |
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I'd forgotten that my profile picture on here was that horny duck Kneewrecker!
The RYA actually have quite a large number of comms people but they're arranged so people are embedded in departments (i.e. performance or training) not centralised into one department. Apparently this makes them "more effective". |
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Rupert
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 2:25pm |
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Just been to look on the RYA site, and I can now tell you that there are 60 people employed in some form or another in "dinghy racing" and 80 more volunteers, but I still can't tell you who the boss of dinghy racing is, who it is who weighs up the needs of the Olympic team with those of Puddleducks SC. Doesn't mean it isn't on there - the site is not the most logical.
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laser47
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 2:37pm |
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I could be totally wrong but as far as I'm aware, there isn't one dinghy racing boss as there isn't a "dinghy racing" department per se. Learning to dinghy race is under training, youth racing is under youth, match & team racing is grouped together with the uni stuff and adult racing falls under performance alongside the 5 ring circus guys.
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JimC
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 2:48pm |
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My understanding is that the money for Olympic team is from quite different sources and ring fenced, so there cannot be any such weighing up. |
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transient
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 2:56pm |
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...as I suggested a couple of posts ago, aren't clubs in the best position to promote Club Sailing (as per topic)? They are on the front line after-all and they are geographically closest to any new potential members. I'm not sure how much my local clubs spend on local advertising to attract new members but I bet It ain't a lot. The larger clubs have probably got this covered but a better question to ask for the rest of us might be "Who in my club is responsible for promoting dinghy sailing within our catchment area?" |
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Oli
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 3:34pm |
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it doesn't cost anything for a volunteer patrol boat crew to take a few snaps and write up a short report, send it to the local rag and relevant websites. do that once every two or three weeks in the summer (we use our all in races for reports with an added what else is going on for beginners tacked on. no one else is going to do it for you, so you might as well do it yourselves and make it relevant to what you're doing as a club.
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davidyacht
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Posted: 30 Jun 15 at 4:30pm |
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I write the Salcombe reports, others email any photos, I send the report to Mags, local rag and Facebook page. It takes about an hour per week. This is how I help my club. Hopefully it improves our Club's profile, and attracts sailors in South Devon to join and sail at our club. Any club could do this ... Didn't see many reports for Bewl.
My point about an overal Dinghy Racing development officer is that to me the RYA focus remains on Olympics, Youth and "learning to sail" training, each element is quite discrete, not joined up, and certainly does not integrate very well with the bit of the sport that most of us care about ... Adult dinghy racing at clubs. It would be nice if somebody had a responsibility for trying to tie these aspects together ... Getting the youth squaddies to be sailing regularly at clubs ... And into adult one designs instead of packing it in ... Getting those learning to sail to have a go at club racing ... Maybe having it as part of a certificate as ski instructors have to achieve a downhill time as part of their qualification ... By insisting that Olympic sailors represent a club rather than sail as RYA, so that youngsters in those clubs can identify with them. My personal experience while sitting on RYA committees is that rival departments or factions are driven by self interest at the cost of the greater good.
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