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I suppose an "advantage" of a dead class like the EPS is that they are all old and slow and off the pace, but there are a considerable number of drawbacks as well, not the least being that such a class obviously had a very, shall we say selective, appeal when it was being produced, so you'd be well advised to have an extensive trial sail on one before purchase to see if you are part of that select group that does get on with the class in question.

Well I took none of their advice, because they're stick in the mud dinghy sailors, they all told me the EPS was a waste of time, but it was quite the contrary. It does have a big sail, but there is a smaller version and sailmakers still producing it. The beauty of it, although the handicap for it is unfavourable because of the moronic attitude the bozos on the PYAG committee have to what they decide is a live or dead class,  it has remained static. This does however give you the potential if you sail it in a slower handicap fleet, to make mistakes yet still get back in the mix and learn what's going on at the front of the fleet which is invaluable.

Edited by Woodburner - 07 May 15 at 10:50am

Well it hasn't changed in all the time I've owned it, 1024 when I got it and it remains there this what 3 years later during which time the laser has gone from 1078 - 1091 and the Phantom from what 1047 - 1008, for it to be a Bandit it would need to be 1050 or more imv if the main boat opposing it remains a stock Laser which is what is most common and what other boats are there around that give a bit of extra buzz for 800 quid was my logic, who in their right mind really wants a boring bloody Laser Std.

According to my records 1013 on first appearance and for many years, then out to 1020 in 2010 and 1024 a couple of years later.

Originally posted by gordon1277 Hi Sawman It would depend if you can get the club to give you an age related handicap, which for an old woodie with tin rig, about 1047. I would have thought any boat at about that price is not going to be competetive with a new boat, unless you stick new rig and sails on it. Regards Gordon

you might be on to something here - the local phantoms seems to be racing off a py of 995but they are all pretty new machines....
pity theres no pics of those two in the association page