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    Posted: 11 Dec 07 at 7:38am
Originally posted by Ross


I have raced in big fleets, granted it wasn't a laser though. Topper nationals, inlands and open meetings can compare to the laser fleet. I'm not class bashing, I am shure/know that the laser class is wonderful and have great events and racing. I'm boat bashing, not class bashing. If someone said that Cheurbs are horrid to sail, I wouldn't take offence and I wouldn't claim to be insulted by it either. However I would contest that they were wrong.


Oh, they can be quite horrible uncomfortable things with the ever present danger of your mainsheet getting caught on the transom, and a tendancy to deathroll downwind. But I doubt you could design a better boat blindfold...
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you know what ross some people you can reason with and some you cant. unfortunatly for you you are the latter. never mind!! 
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I have raced in big fleets, granted it wasn't a laser though. Topper nationals, inlands and open meetings can compare to the laser fleet. I'm not class bashing, I am shure/know that the laser class is wonderful and have great events and racing. I'm boat bashing, not class bashing. If someone said that Cheurbs are horrid to sail, I wouldn't take offence and I wouldn't claim to be insulted by it either. However I would contest that they were wrong.

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Originally posted by Pierre

Originally posted by stuarthop

I recomend that before you bash a class you try it, Then  give your opinions of the class

 



I'm sorry, has there been a cultural sea change on this forum whilst my back was turned !!!!


oops wording error whilst in a bit of high speed typing


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Originally posted by stuarthop

I recomend that before you bash a class you try it, Then  give your opinions of the class

 



I'm sorry, has there been a cultural sea change on this forum whilst my back was turned !!!!
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Originally posted by stuarthop

Ross stop the class bashing. Yes i sail Cherubs and theres many reasons why, what yourself and possiblya few others dont realise is yes:
1) I used to sail laser radials (with in my opinion very good national series results)
2) Although at club level (small un competitive fleets) sailing a laser may seem boring, try racing one in a fleet of over 100 boats at a nationals or qualifier event, where you get 4 or 5 rows of boats fighting for a good start and seriously close and tactical racing in often challenging conditions (memories of strong winds and huge waves outside the plymouth sound or strong tides at felixtowe)
3) I actually keep toying with the idea of buying another radial for racing in the qualifier series as i enjoyed the standard of racing so much.

I recomend that before you bash a class you try it, sail a season in a radial (your definatly not heavy enough to be quick in a full rig), sail the qualifier series and the nationals and see how you rank. Then  give your opinions of the class

 

 

Mate that is so well said, and exactly what i have done! Although i have to sail with full rig beacuse i'm too big for a radial
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Originally posted by mike ellis

smight, i don't sail on a puddle, and 20 knots on the sea with these strange moving lumps of water gives you plenty to think about, trust me you want the reef in. i will tell you how it feels when reefed when i try it out.

Fair enough matey good luck with the big lumps of water

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Ross stop the class bashing. Yes i sail Cherubs and theres many reasons why, what yourself and possiblya few others dont realise is yes:
1) I used to sail laser radials (with in my opinion very good national series results)
2) Although at club level (small un competitive fleets) sailing a laser may seem boring, try racing one in a fleet of over 100 boats at a nationals or qualifier event, where you get 4 or 5 rows of boats fighting for a good start and seriously close and tactical racing in often challenging conditions (memories of strong winds and huge waves outside the plymouth sound or strong tides at felixtowe)
3) I actually keep toying with the idea of buying another radial for racing in the qualifier series as i enjoyed the standard of racing so much.

I recomend that before you try a class you bash it, sail a season in a radial (your definatly not heavy enough to be quick in a full rig), sail the qualifier series and the nationals and see how you rank. Then  give your opinions of the class

 



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smight, i don't sail on a puddle, and 20 knots on the sea with these strange moving lumps of water gives you plenty to think about, trust me you want the reef in. i will tell you how it feels when reefed when i try it out.
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