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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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Possibly even at the level of PY/rig switching. I wonder if one reason why Lasers never win handicap races at WSC is because of the PY distortion due to rig-switching nationally.
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Most Radial sails have a blue head and clew (even the replicas) and are a different cut. A 4.7 has 4.7 written on it plus a large amount of boom sticking out the end. This will of course become a little different when (if) the new Standard sail ever gets released...... If the helm has not signed on stating their rig choice and you genuinely cannot tell the difference then score them as a full rig and let them come to you.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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They are? Not that I've noticed. and even worse if there are fake sails in the mix. |
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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It would be easier if the Radial said RADIAL in big letter across it. The 4.7 does have it written on, doesn't it?
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davidyacht ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1345 |
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Actually Lasers are a pain for the RO, why should the RO have to know the subtleties of the sail panel layout and window design to destinguish a Radial from a Standard? Even worse if you have volunteers in the race box who can hardly tell the difference between a Laser and a Solo ... I hope RS have given some consideration to the RO's.
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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You make a very good point, I consider myself chastised for my lack of vision, and momentary lapse of respect for a 505, helmed, of course, by a really hot lingerie model with the sailing reportoire of an Ainslie training partner... Edited by kneewrecker - 08 Nov 14 at 8:46am |
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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Exactly the same as the Laser then. The only real difference is that the Laser sails are (relatively) easily to distinguish from each other whereas the RS ones all look identical aside from a small number on the 'O'. RS should take a leaf out of lasers book and make them really easy to pick out. Put different coloured reinforcing on the corners or something or use a completely different coloured cloth. That way there can be no confusion for the RO over which class someone is sailing.
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boatshed ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 12 Apr 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 457 |
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Going off thread for a moment.... That's a start but really, you need to dream of better racing. Sailing with others (in the same boat) is always better fun. I see single handers as boats for working, time poor folk; which is why I sail one. Being semi or fully retired and cash rich should allow a commitment to sail with your mates. The thing that sticks in my head was watching a good size fleet of 3 crew Etchells doing two or three races a few evenings a week in Auckland Harbour. First start was 5 pm sharp. They got back to the dock and the club for a few beers at dusk. I could handle that. |
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Medway Maniac ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 13 May 05 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2788 |
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It is tough when people who sail an old boat get beaten by someone because he bought a new boat which costs considerably more than a second rig, but we don't try to guilt-trip people over it. I don't really see where this attitude ends. Maybe new sails should be subject to a 5-point penalty, or somebody who up-grades their Phantom or Blaze to a carbon mast should take a hit too? Like you, I'm not coming from the viewpoint of someone who would be disadvantaged - as a series scorer it is a pain accounting for people swapping rigs, but if it's the same hull and there's a PY available for use, that's good enough for me.
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Chris 249 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 10 May 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2041 |
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If I COULD do it, I wouldn't - to me it seems unsporting to win races by double dipping. I'd get the advantage of having gear that is rated slower because it is slower at the extremes, plus the advantage of using gear in its optimum wind range. |
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