The Tasar v the Icon

Most of those boats don't have the dominant fleet in their countries of origin. Look at the OK fleet instead?

Chris 249 appears to be suggesting that they CAN compete with the Contender - you are saying they can't - my suggestion was one explanation of the apparant dichotomy.

Originally posted by Rupert Most of those boats don't have the dominant fleet in their countries of origin. Look at the OK fleet instead?Chris 249 appears to be suggesting that they CAN compete with the Contender - you are saying they can't - my suggestion was one explanation of the apparant dichotomy.

The best Ok sailors are from all over the world ?

There is no mystery - if Chris finds that the Tasars can beat Contenders on open water then the Contender sailors cannot be anything like as good as the Tasar sailors - there's no Aussie Tasar magic ?

Edited by rich96 - 13 Oct 14 at 6:47pm

Originally posted by getafix It's interesting that Tasars and Contenders are getting compared, I guess it's an open water question but on open water, I don't see why you'd go without a wire, particularly upwind.  In the more confined spaces then it's interesting and I wonder how both Tasars and Icon would fare against a modern N12?

part of your question can be found here: http://results.burghfieldsailing.org/show.php?page=2014_sun_fast_sp_am.htm

I'd imagine any half decent wiring single hander down under would have gone MPS or other more exciting use of his her wiring skills.

I know the contender, I've race it every week for what 8 years now, or is it 10, my how the time has flown, anyway I digress, I also now know the Tasar, having raced an oldish one down the lake and at Hythe, then spending two gruelling hours trying to keep a really well helmed one at bay during that round sheppey race in what I imagine were his ideal condition, he got me when I had a bad moment and I only got him back due to a tidal error on his part.
But I know this, had my club mates in their Contenders been there that day, they'd have toasted us both, they can hold an Alto upwind on such a day, the only way you nail Contenders is with a three sail reach (and be sure to sail by them as close as you can they really appreciate a windward dunking, you can hear them for hundreds of yards after you've past them)
That guy in the Tasar was a very good helm, he didn't miss much, just one mistake, which we can all make in the course of four hours he was unfortunate to make it at the end of the race rather than the beginning, but even so with his obvious skill he wouldn't hold a Contender, sorry, not a chance.
Nor is there an Aussie sailor that could have helmed a Tasar not a Miracle dream team against our best club pair, not a chance.

Edited by iGRF - 13 Oct 14 at 10:04pm

Originally posted by iGRF I know the contender, I've race it every week for what 8 years now, or is it 10, my how the time has flown, anyway I digress, I also now know the Tasar, having raced an oldish one down the lake and at Hythe, then spending two gruelling hours trying to keep a really well helmed one at bay during that round sheppey race in what I imagine were his ideal condition, he got me when I had a bad moment and I only got him back due to a tidal error on his part. But I know this, had my club mates in their Contenders been there that day, they'd have toasted us both, they can hold an Alto upwind on such a day, the only way you nail Contenders is with a three sail reach (and be sure to sail by them as close as you can they really appreciate a windward dunking, you can hear them for hundreds of yards after you've past them) That guy in the Tasar was a very good helm, he didn't miss much, just one mistake, which we can all make in the course of four hours he was unfortunate to make it at the end of the race rather than the beginning, but even so with his obvious skill he wouldn't hold a Contender, sorry, not a chance. Nor is there an Aussie sailor that could have helmed a Tasar not a Miracle dream team against our best club pair, not a chance.