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jeffers ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 29 Mar 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 3048 |
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Not at all, each club will submit a return detailing the Trial Number they they have used. The RYA (as long as they have the race times via the PYS website) can see the achieved PY for each race and from that they can do their analysis and publish a PY (if they get enough data, I would say they should have enough for an EN by early next year). Plus if your club uploads their results to the PYS websites it will start spitting out a recommended local number for the boat (along with a confidence factor). The tools/mechanisms are there but people are either unwilling or unable to use them. I believe most clubs where Zeros are currently racing are either using 1010 (Grafham/Great Lakes PY) or around 1044/1045 (which is the speed the boats designer has consistently indicated that he believes the boat is at, it certainly seems OK for a restricted water inland so far).
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Simon Lovesey ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 349 |
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We also tracked the VX-Ones at Cowes Week where they were given a TCC of 1.012, so there is some more data available if Nathan chooses to request the VX One to race in some of the Winter Series events, but I know now that not all clubs will be able to accommodate this type of boat. |
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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I guess they could try using whatever Ullswater gave it as starting point to discussion? It would be based on fact, not fiction, after all. Edit: 840 http://www.ullswateryachtclub.org/Portals/0/RacingResults/Lord%20Birkett%202014.htm
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getafix ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 28 Mar 06 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 2143 |
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oh dear, IMPO, if we all raced the boats we have to just win stuff at our clubs, what a boring sad little place this would be.... like the fanboy posting and sl*gging off other classes, these boards need a bit of shakeup, it's supposed to be "dinghy development".
I suppose one could argue GRF's cancellation is a development for the DZero, but probably, given the RS100 "history" one in which Rodney is now smiling very broadly and pleased to not be getting drawn into online debates about how "failed the design is because so-and-so with a xxxxx at my club still beats me".
I'd rather hear from new Zero owners about how they're finding the boat, it's design and racing it than reading off-piste rants about the PY system (done to death already IMO elsewhere). How does it point, what's it like turning corners, are you sprightly and fresh after a long beat, or utterly shagged-out and happy to just let go the main and slump in the bottom? |
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iGRF ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 07 Mar 11 Location: Hythe Online Status: Offline Posts: 6499 |
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I wonder how Nathan Batchelor is going to enter the Sailjuice series in the new Ovington built VX-One (I saw it at Southampton)without a handicap then, someone must issue it.
Meanwhile this caption competition and the phrase 'Gerrymandering what does that mean?' ![]() Spring to mind. Gordon I offered the obvious, either postpone or I'll buy then sell it, before it devalues further being the logic that is no sleight on the boat which remains an excellent craft, I am not however going to be a victim of this pathetic system nor part in furthering it maybe I'll buy a minisail and gun belt instead. Edited by iGRF - 19 Sep 14 at 3:35pm |
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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Fortunately Rodney will find someone further down the list who has just had his or her Friday afternoon blues very much lifted....
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gordon1277 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 24 Mar 10 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 665 |
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Having read a lot of this and looking back on how wonderful the 100 was going to be then someone now thinks its awful because he could not sail it Rodney should be singing from the hilltops and cuddling Mr Fullers non refundable deposit.
Cancelling a boat when it ready for collecting is in my opinion dreadful and in his business I am sure he would be very unhappy if someone had ordered a £5k item and cancelled it in the same way. |
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kneewrecker ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 09 Apr 14 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1586 |
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it's a Kona Windsurfer mate, but to be fair don't go to any effort to include it for me... if I had the free time for winter sailing this winter I'd be bleating like a bitch about my 'heinous' D-Zero GL handicap like the rest of them...
... or alternatively taking the pragmatic view and hoping to meet a Rooster 8.1, some RS Aeros and fellow D-Zero sailors to have a good shakedown race with. edit: for any google searches that find this post in the future, my old Kona One ran of 1080, which was damn hard to sail to as a complete muppet windsurfer.
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Simon Lovesey ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() ![]() Joined: 30 Nov 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 349 |
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James - and what is your latest toy ? Dates for GJW Direct SailJuice Winter Series Launched yesterday at Boat Show, with online entry opening early October when eligibility of classes will be confirmed |
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at present my current sail racing toy is not welcome at most of the SJ series iirc... Draycote Dash is the only only exception I think.
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