Sailing is for posh people

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   I have 6 bottles of Val de Rance Breton cider waiting for Christmas - Breton cder is very different to Somerset cider, but both are excellent.

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Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Topic: Sailing is for posh people Posted: 23 Dec 13 at 9:51am
	I have 6 bottles of Val de Rance Breton cider waiting for Christmas - Breton cder is very different to Somerset cider, but both are excellent.
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gordon Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 07 Sep 04 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1037	Post Options Post Reply Quote gordon Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 13 at 9:42am
	Somerset cider -Bah! Humbug! Cider from the south west of Britanny is far superior - Le Sehedic from Fouesnant is my favourite. Normandy has been trying to make cider for a long time - still only a pale imtation. Northern Spanish (Asturies) cider is supposed to be good. Have not had a chance to taste it.
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iitick Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Far too distracted from work Joined: 09 Sep 13 Location: Tunstead Milton Online Status: Offline Posts: 392	Post Options Post Reply Quote iitick Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 13 at 9:35am
	Actually Sheet Puller the word 'artisan' makes a good point. Back in the good old days when William Brown broke a window with his cricket ball and the glazier turned up with a pane of glass tied onto his bike carrier, we had 'artisans'. Jobbing builders wore bib and brace overalls and pushed handcarts through the streets. Skilled men bashed out aluminium wings for Rolls Royce at coach builders with names like Thrup and Maberley or Mulliner while their compatriots hand sawed ash frames. In those days there was a wealth of Artisan Craftsmen who if you peeled away the fairisle sweater or waistcoat were quite young underneath. So, once you had pushed the Ransome over the sooty lawn and eaten the clod and stickin pie with boiled cabbage, what to do next? What you do is make something. What could it be? Model aeroplane, sidecar for your Royal Enfield, hardboard caravan or....I know, sailing dinghy! You summon your boy Ron, who is 12 and parking his New Hudson bike in the alley, and explain your plans. Ron is keen because he is fed up with collecting stamps and it will be 3 years before he can start his apprenticeship as a french polisher. Off with the coat, Woodbine between the lips, watch hung on the nail in the shed and away we go! Uffa here we come! In my model boat years a long time ago I knew a man called Fred Ivory. He was the most 'common' man I ever met and was a toolmaker living with his son (equally 'common') in a council flat in Battersea. That flat contained a complete workshop including a kettle and a spittoon. But what did he make! He was amazing, little self tacking vane steering systems, bottle screws, cast lead keels and adjustable mast tracks. His boats were incredible, all carvel planked but painted and showing an amazing degree of contemporary design both aesthetic and mechanical. Society has changed to such an extent that we have largely lost this section of our population. There was Eastbourne Artisans and Eastbourne Sailing, brown ale and G and T, wives and Ladies. You knew where you were back then, now we all buy plastic boats and talk b**locks on forums.

maxibuddah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760	Post Options Post Reply Quote maxibuddah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 13 at 9:31am
	These days you may well be called posh if you have something the have nots don't have. A jealously thing, whereas in my day you had to have a plummy voice to be considered posh. That was it, nothing else. If you say "orf" rather than "off", posh. Lots of them in yot clubs sat at the bar having once been invited onto a launch on the Thames. Once that is in people's mindsets then everyone gets tarred with the same brush I'm afraid. Anyway Rupert try cider and Guinness. Can't remember what that's called but I know a few who used to drink it. Difficulty is in the two not separating while you drank it
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Rupert Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956	Post Options Post Reply Quote Rupert Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 13 at 8:55am
	Posh is an attitude of mind, really. And I suspect that for many people who take up sailing, there is just a slight leaning in that direction. As for Somerset cider, I quite agree - the best in the world. Cornish cider appears to have been designed to remove all the teeth from your mouth and braincells from your head, and the cider from the eastern seaboard is a pale immitation. Snakebite... that brings back (vague) memories, especially when a pernod and black was added (a purple nasty, I think we called that). Must be posh.
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maxibuddah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760	Post Options Post Reply Quote maxibuddah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 13 at 6:53am
	But you can be posh and skint as well as the opposite. That micky Carroll bloke certainly wouldn't be called posh but he was loaded nor the bloke that owns Newcastle utd
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Sheetpuller Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Posting king Joined: 22 Feb 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 114	Post Options Post Reply Quote Sheetpuller Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 23 Dec 13 at 12:51am
	'Posh' might be a non-sailor's perception of sailing, but I suspect only for those who like to indulge in a bit of inverted snobbery. We all know that it's a game where you can spend as much as you want - or as little, and I'd guess that most dinghy sailors fall into the 'as little' category. I grew up sailing in Eastbourne; today there is one sailing club, Eastbourne Sovereign SC, but it is an amalgamation of two, Eastbourne SC and Sovereign SC. And before Sovereign SC adopted that name it was called 'Artisans Sailing Club'. I don't think there was any interaction between Eastbourne SC and Artisans in those days even though you could practically throw stones from one to the other. That undoubtedly was snobbery. Thank God those days are past. Is sailing an expensive sport, affordable only by the posh? Of course it isn't, it can't be 'cos I'm here. Like every other sport though, it costs a fortune if you want to compete at the highest level, but thats just a matter of getting someone else to foot the bill. If you want 'posh', try paying for a season ticket to follow a premiership football club - and that's a sport that was working men's entertainment when I was a kid.
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maxibuddah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760	Post Options Post Reply Quote maxibuddah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 13 at 10:12pm
	Nearly as posh as white lightning Dougal
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Dougal Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 23 Sep 09 Location: England Online Status: Offline Posts: 556	Post Options Post Reply Quote Dougal Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 13 at 7:19pm
	Snakebite? I'm guessing that ain't posh even though it uses cider and not scrumpy?
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maxibuddah Send Private Message Find Member's Posts Really should get out more Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760	Post Options Post Reply Quote maxibuddah Report Post Quote Reply Posted: 22 Dec 13 at 5:34pm
	I am from somerset and have absolutely no wish to be Cornish whatsoever. And our cider is much better than the rubbish the cornish make. They concentrated on pasties to which we should all be grateful, we concentrated on cider, to which we should all be grateful and the Devonians? They were just lazy and stole the best of each. As for the Herefordshire lot, who claim to be the kings of cider thanks to Bulmers.....well they produced woodpecker, nuff said
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