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    Posted: 21 Nov 13 at 12:12pm
Well I wonder if we all view 'posh' as the same thing. Having 'class' used to derive the label 'posh' automatically from us none public school educated types. You can however have folk with 'class' that are broke and as we all know money definitely doesn't automatically define one as classy.

Class generally means RP accent, politeness, confidence and a general 'way' with people born from good pastoral care, which is not a bad thing.

Obviously this normally comes at the expense of a private education, although as four privately educated girls can demonstrate to their father at times, not always an automatic outcome.

However if the term Posh as applied to "Posh Spice" is what we're describing then definitely not something to aspire to.

So if the title were does sailing have class?

Maybe the answers might be different.
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It all ends in tears, playing with the rich... you get delusions that they care, that you are part of their world, but as soon as your usefulness runs out they will send you cack to the gutter where you came from. Actually, no - I think that might have been a film plot, not real life.
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Originally posted by 2547

None of them were posh though ... They is from Essex init ...


Yep, 'cos of course you'd have to yacht the fine stretches of the Medway to make it into Debretts these days ....
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Well, I made a living from the rich for many years. They appreciated my homely, down to earth charm and allowed me to re design their homes and drop concrete on their floors. They treated me as a friend. It may have looked to outsiders that I was befriending them....but no...little did they know, I was exploiting them.
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No it doesn't - it just means you are essential part of their world. Posh people need people to run their sports, to compete against, to crew for them...

There was French academic going by the wonderful name of Gay-Para who theorised all this. Rich people are happy to pay for the "parasites" if they are good-looking, provide a service (crewing) or are entertaining. It doesn't mean the "parasites" are necessarily posh. And when organising an evet one has to cater for these essential people (cheap food, cheap places to stay...) other wise the posh people have no one to play with.
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Originally posted by Noah

You've got it all wrong! They / We wasn't members woz we! It was Nationals week where 400-odd kids and their parents descended on Burnham and took over the town. Not a B&B or camping space to be had. We - cheapskates - were in a borrowed a caravan! (Does knowing rich(er) people make you posh by association?)

No but it makes you a class traitor.
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You've got it all wrong! They / We wasn't members woz we! It was Nationals week where 400-odd kids and their parents descended on Burnham and took over the town. Not a B&B or camping space to be had. We - cheapskates - were in a borrowed a caravan! (Does knowing rich(er) people make you posh by association?)
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Originally posted by Noah

Nothing changes. As a mere whippersnapper back when Granny was a boy, I witnessed several teenage tearaways (aka Cadet helms) park another helm's bubble car on the balcony of the RCYC at Burnham. The owner wasn't impressed, but neither was the club! These reprobates were a mix of public and state school educated, well-off, comfortable and less so. Offspring of all sorts of self-employed, business owners, civil servants, middle management... I can't see much difference in the behavior - only the toys they play with.

None of them were posh though ... They is from Essex init ...
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RCYC?.....Royal Corinthan Yacht Club. Come on, give me a break. Back in those days Isetta, Hienkell and Goggomoble were the playthings of wealthy youth. Your working class oik had a Bantam or a bike....if he was lucky.
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Nothing changes. As a mere whippersnapper back when Granny was a boy, I witnessed several teenage tearaways (aka Cadet helms) park another helm's bubble car on the balcony of the RCYC at Burnham. The owner wasn't impressed, but neither was the club! These reprobates were a mix of public and state school educated, well-off, comfortable and less so. Offspring of all sorts of self-employed, business owners, civil servants, middle management... I can't see much difference in the behavior - only the toys they play with.
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