Sailing is for posh people

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Originally posted by transient Originally posted by yellowwelly [QUOTE=iitick]So Mr B & Q should take a second job so that he can mix with the 'in' crowd. Really? [ no, he should if he wants a motorhome and isn't prepared to cut back on other things to to get it.  Or he could take some cheap finance while interest rates are low. Whether he defines it to an 'in crowd' is up to him.  I'd suggest living his own life, in every possible way, would be a more rewarding experience for him and his kids.  Who the hell is this bloke you're talking about.......come on guys, HE DOESN'T EXIST except in your heads for the purpose of confirming some dogma......if he did exist he and has any sense he probably doesn't measure the value of his life buy sailing and owning a mobile home. Nobody has defined "posh" either. .....so here you are arguing about a word that has no common  meaning using a fictitious stereotype who can't be consulted.

Originally posted by transient ome on guys, HE DOESN'T EXIST except in your heads for the purpose of confirming some dogma......

Edited by yellowwelly - 18 Nov 13 at 1:37pm

Originally posted by yellowwelly Originally posted by iitick So Mr B & Q should take a second job so that he can mix with the 'in' crowd. Really? no, he should if he wants a motorhome and isn't prepared to cut back on other things to to get it.  Or he could take some cheap finance while interest rates are low. Whether he defines it to an 'in crowd' is up to him.  I'd suggest living his own life, in every possible way, would be a more rewarding experience for him and his kids.

Who the hell is this bloke you're talking about.......come on guys, HE DOESN'T EXIST except in your heads for the purpose of confirming some dogma......if he did exist he and has any sense he probably doesn't measure the value of his life buy sailing and owning a mobile home.

Nobody has defined "posh" either.

.....so here you are arguing about a word that has no common  meaning using a fictitious stereotype who can't be consulted.  

Social class is only partly to do with wealth, but a lot to do with lifestyle choices and how one decides to live.

Does "posh" refer to upper middle class, or A/B socio economoc category?

Really"posh" people won't take their children on the RYA Youth sailing programme and circuit - their children will be helming the families second Dragon in Cowes by the age of 14. They will of course be attending a horribly expensive fee-paying school were they will compete against their social equals in the public school team racing circuit - before going of to the States on a school TR tour. They will continue to enjoy yotting throughout their life.

The parents who condem their kids tp years on the Oppie/420/radial treadmill are not posh - they are aspirational middle class (B/C1) who believe that competing in this circuit will be good for their kids (an unfortunate relic of Thatcherism). They have the budget and choose to spend it on new boats, sails, coaches, travel and, the ultimate Oppie parent accessory, the camper. Long term, most of these kids will not sail as adults (even the Oppie class admits to an 80% drop out rate). One or two will continue and become elite sailors.

Meanwhile, down at your local gravel pit kids are having fun sailing battered boats, often paid for out of pocket money, birthday money etc.  Because they chose sailing as a sport they will continue

This of course is caricature - but close enough to the truth.