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    Posted: 18 Nov 13 at 11:56am
Originally posted by iitick

Hang on! You just made my point. You and your parents had the degree of affluence which enabled you to make a choice that was convenient to you. Are you implying that Mr B & Q could finance his child's sailing in that way if he gave up beer and fags?

So many of the affluent middle classes have no idea of the financial gulf that exists between themselves and 'ordinary' workers.

I am sure that Mr B & Q could follow the circuit but with a tent and 02 Astra, lots of adult sailors do but please do not tell me that the Motorhome coralle at Graffham was not somewhere in the region of 'posh'.

Yes, he probably could, if the desire was there- and some smaller motorhomes are more economical and not that impractical to run as a family car.  I know plenty of windsurfers who run converted T-5s as cars as well as sports wagons.... they'd laugh if you called them posh, but they do tend to work for themselves in one form or another, and I can only assume that means they are sufficiently efficient at whatever it is they do to make ends meet.  

So B&Q bod, he or she could also take on more shifts, or get promoted, or aspire through searching for other jobs.  He or she could take on two jobs ... or do all the other things that people with aspirations to earn more do, which may include moving away to accept work which pay overseas, or living away from home M-F, retraining and re-skilling into a future resilient work area; or taking some bloody ugly risks by being truly responsible for their own income and setting up their own businesses.

None of that is as easy as rolling into the same stable, safe boring job for 40 years admittedly- with all its comforts, protections, unions, minimum wages and sick pay.  And you'd have to ask why anyone in retailing, at shop level (floor or managers office) would do all of that for a part of the sport which is run at weekends, and busy retailing weekends at that. 


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I've heard tales that some families based at the same club will join forces with another family to buy a motorhome and multiple stacker between them, taking turns to drive it and kids to events. Spreads the cost, spreads the travel burden- and the motorhome retains a decent resale value.
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So Mr B & Q should take a second job so that he can mix with the 'in' crowd. Really? Let's face it Dinghy sailing and dinghy sailors are nice, safe, comfortable people. You meet a nice class of people sailing who incline towards 'posh' when supporting youth. But it is a middle class hobby, a 'posh' hobby? Certainly perceived as such by society. This has nothing to do with real cost, if you avoid the motorhome, it costs more for the boy to play hockey than sail and the boats we own, some of which have been very successful, cost very little. It makes me sad that sailing is seen as exclusive but it certainly is. Exclusive = posh, perhaps.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote yellowwelly Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 13 at 12:36pm
let's not ruin the stereotype Al...

Of course today's new parents could decide not to buy a house and rent instead.  That way they are not helping to fund the baby boomers who have seen the most monumental capital gain windfall in modern economic history through the housing market.

They would also not be nudged into the 3% (or even 4%) in stamp duty- which is helping to significantly reduce the liabilities of a previous feckless, war mongering Government that, in all likelihood, they didn't vote for either.


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Originally posted by iitick

So Mr B & Q should take a second job so that he can mix with the 'in' crowd. Really?

no, he should if he wants a motorhome and isn't prepared to cut back on other things to to get it.  Or he could take some cheap finance while interest rates are low.

Whether he defines it to an 'in crowd' is up to him.  I'd suggest living his own life, in every possible way, would be a more rewarding experience for him and his kids. 


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 can i please just mention hitler now Smile. in the hope that this thread will change direction or end, before it all ends in Cry Cry
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Did Hitler own a motorhome? He certainly wasn't posh, so I doubt he sailed.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote iitick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 18 Nov 13 at 12:55pm
Oh.....so the poor worker should get 2 jobs (and wash more) and us baby boomers have exploited the system are wrong as well. As I sit in my kitchen I can see the Peak District landscape out of my window, not a house in sight, just sheep. My Aga, owned  for almost 40 years is warming my bum. Just trying to annoy you now. I will go and shoot a rambler, for sport, not 'posh' sport, just sport.
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Originally posted by Rupert

Did Hitler own a motorhome? He certainly wasn't posh, so I doubt he sailed.


think his main  hobbies were painting, invading russia and genocide. with i litttle bit of drug taking on the side.
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New topic then....If Hitler sailed a dinghy, what would he sail?
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