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    Posted: 17 Nov 13 at 7:40pm
Its amazing what you can afford to do if you cut out takeaway meals, booze, fags and foreign holidays... I got a new Cherub when I was on a very modest income back in the 80s.
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Originally posted by NickA

I do notice that the kids who roll up for topper training weekends at our club (and thereby have a chance at Zone and National squads and will one day turn up at the Olympics) generally have mum and dad driving a Massive Camper Van or Audi Q7 or RangeRovaar and that all their kit is nice and new.
Also noticed that by the time I was rich enough to own a nice dinghy I was too old to sail it well.

My brother has a son in toppers(now lasers) and daughter in 420. Yes he is on a good salary and works bloody hard for it and yes he has a motor home BUT no expensive holidays etc and it certainly doesn't make him posh.
I still havent got rich enough to buy me a decent boat and certainly not good enough to sail it.
If you want posh try the horsey fraternity


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I do notice that the kids who roll up for topper training weekends at our club (and thereby have a chance at Zone and National squads and will one day turn up at the Olympics) generally have mum and dad driving a Massive Camper Van or Audi Q7 or RangeRovaar and that all their kit is nice and new.

Also noticed that by the time I was rich enough to own a nice dinghy I was too old to sail it well.
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I'm with Gordon; racing yachts offshore is fascinating, complex and challenging. Peeling headsails at 3 am in a bouncy seaway is an adrenalin rush boosted by the knowledge that unlike dinghy sailing, it really is a dangerous activity. And the beauty of offshore sailing is something that words cannot convey. 

I also find there's something wonderfully surreal about the contrast of buckets of spray hurling themselves across the deck in the night, and varnish shining down below in the warm and comfy cabin.

Re class; anyone who reckons dinghy sailing is just for the upper classes hasn't visited Belmont 16 Footer Skiff Club down here!
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Originally posted by craiggo

If your view of yachting is buying one of those big white bits of plastic at the Southampton boat show, then you probably are a bit posh, however rubber boot is right, yacht ownership can be pretty cheap. I told a load of club members a month or so ago, how much a new RS200 was along with various other popular dinghies and they all said "Bloody hell, you could buy a fleet of cruisers for that!" When you consider that boats like Achilles 24s, GK24s, Sonatas etc change hands for less than £5k you can see how they draw that conclusion.

The truth is though why would you want to race a boat you can sleep or brew up on, its like taking a VW camper van around the Nurburgring!


Generally I would agree with you- however Sonatas are great fun to race.
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I'm working class. I also sail. Came late to it as even growing up living in a seaside town my family could never afford a boat or join a club. I used to spend hours down the harbour watching the boats & wishing I could do that....It's only been in recent years that I realised the long held dreams of building my own boat & sailing it with like minded folk. My club actively encourages participation by local kids & families where we try & bust the idea that sailing is elitist. I reckon we're doing a damn good job too....
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Dinghy sailing is not posh. The 5k sonata is equivalent to the £900 laser. We have single mums (and their kids) sailing at our club, garage mechanics, etc. Members go out of their way to get those without a boat a place crewing, find cheap boats etc.
I worked out that my seasons sailing cost at least half of a seasons golf played by friends (have you seen the membership fees!!!)although equipment costs for 5 a side footie are £25 for a pair of astroturf shoes every 2nd year in the January sales.
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Proper cruiser racing - in which the navigator is the most important member of the crew, in which timing passages through channles onl accessible at high tide, the strategic use of the anchor and careful management of the crew (resting, sleeping and eating) is a fascinating sport.

Unfortunately there are not many races like that...
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If your view of yachting is buying one of those big white bits of plastic at the Southampton boat show, then you probably are a bit posh, however rubber boot is right, yacht ownership can be pretty cheap. I told a load of club members a month or so ago, how much a new RS200 was along with various other popular dinghies and they all said "Bloody hell, you could buy a fleet of cruisers for that!" When you consider that boats like Achilles 24s, GK24s, Sonatas etc change hands for less than £5k you can see how they draw that conclusion.

The truth is though why would you want to race a boat you can sleep or brew up on, its like taking a VW camper van around the Nurburgring!
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Originally posted by Rupert

Originally posted by winging it

http://www.gotoquiz.com/how_posh_are_you


I'll get the butler to do the test for me.


LOL LOL LOL Clap Clap Clap Well said that man!
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