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    Posted: 15 Nov 13 at 7:03pm
According to the RS website, there's now a third sail option for the RS100. So the choice is 10.2, 8.4 and 7.4 sq. metre sails. Has anyone seen the 7.4 sail in action? What helm weights are suited to each sail size?
 
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News enough to be the opening paragraph of the Press Release....

Crucially they were not racing against each other,... so if you had a 10.2 you'd only have 3 other competitors.  It's hardly a good state of affairs for a class that's only just got ISAF recognised status is it?

Oh well... I guess it's an easy way to get a podium in an International ISAF Class these days, considering the 8.4 isn't the one ISAF actually recognise currently.



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Originally posted by yellowwelly

The event complied with the class rules, in that the fleets were scored separately, although started together.  The question this raises is, what was the point of splitting the fleet then?  They start together, there's interference... guaranteed.   Are the racing each other or not?  

And I guess a deeper concern, why after this long, are the numbers not really there for a healthy fleet, never mind the two the class seems to have forced through rather prematurely?

Anyway, Getafix will be along in a moment to tell us that only 3 entries for the 10.2 fleet at the End of Season Champs (which replaced the Inlands)  is 'not news'...

  1. C.1.2  (i) All Championships for the RS100 dinghy are raced as 2 classes: The RS100 8.4 class, and RS100 10.2 class.

C.1.2 (ii) In all Championships, where the two classes are started together, a boat’s score for a race is that achieved only against sailors in the same class. 


"Not News"

The shocking revelation that the same people who liked sailing with 10.2 and 8.4 sails before, chose to use them, at the same time, in the same venue, at the end of season champs.  Wow.

I'm sure if there is a need to count to more than 3, then emergency measures can be called upon, probably by helicopter, to rectify.
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except when the punter bought a 500 s/he didn't expect to be sailing against 400s - 

If someone showed up with the little 500 rig, would they not be allowed to compete with the 500 XL rigs?
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In that event the 400s and 500s started together but scored separately. No difference for the 100s.
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Big mistake to do anything other than sail together, ignore the sail size, as long as the sail number is the same, sail windsurf style, use whatever you like whenever you like (if you can come ashore to change up or down). My beef was the fact you didn't get time to sort out equipment issues as it was, nobody wants to spend all day on the water back to back.
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The event complied with the class rules, in that the fleets were scored separately, although started together.  The question this raises is, what was the point of splitting the fleet then?  They start together, there's interference... guaranteed.   Are the racing each other or not?  

And I guess a deeper concern, why after this long, are the numbers not really there for a healthy fleet, never mind the two the class seems to have forced through rather prematurely?

Anyway, Getafix will be along in a moment to tell us that only 3 entries for the 10.2 fleet at the End of Season Champs (which replaced the Inlands)  is 'not news'...

  1. C.1.2  (i) All Championships for the RS100 dinghy are raced as 2 classes: The RS100 8.4 class, and RS100 10.2 class.

C.1.2 (ii) In all Championships, where the two classes are started together, a boat’s score for a race is that achieved only against sailors in the same class. 



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Originally posted by yellowwelly

Opening paragraph, single sentence:

The 10.2 and 8.4 fleets sailed together but with separate results.

contrasted to the 'vote' to change class rules for Championships where the classes would start separately and count as two separate classes.



So have they changed their minds or are they just ignoring their own rules?
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Opening paragraph, single sentence:

The 10.2 and 8.4 fleets sailed together but with separate results.

contrasted to the 'vote' to change class rules for Championships where the classes would start separately and count as two separate classes.
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Was there a falling out?  I dont get it Jimbo

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