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Graeme call your one the CONstipated... Same old sh*t, stuck up the same old arse, creating the same old wind... ;-)

Edited by yellowwelly - 03 Nov 13 at 7:47pm

I want a boat that I can sail on the sea, compete with a Merlin round triangle sausage legs, then use it on a small lake and compete with Miracles, Snipes and the odd Scorpion. I dont want old dross, I want a wash through hull, so when we capsize it doesnt take ten minutes to get back up to speed because were full of water. I ve actually bothered to find out how those silly old symmettric kites work so i can design a way around them, or adopt a twin kite approach maybe using dangle poles, maybe something along the lines of the 200 system they canned.

Right now, there is no boat that meets my needs. I like the icon hull, but i also enjoy what a kite does downwind. There are too many boats all catering for bits of what folk want, my idea if I were putting a product out there, which I'm not, would be to make it modular. Want a hiker? buy (a)pack, want a trap boat ? Buy pack (b), want a hiker with a sym kite? Pack © and so on, that hull could do any requirement I reckon hell it could even be a single hander. There again I could be wrong, its not beyond the wit of man to work out a PY, it's not going to be rocket ship fast, it needs a small enough kite to go round the cans on a lake and it doesnt have to have a trap, but it could and then there would have to be another PY.
Another reason we need a fact and measured PY system rather than loads of old buffers vested in keeping things in establshed classes and submiting half arse returns that nobody really bothers with unless, let me guess, they have vested interest or the green eye against a successful class eroding theirs. Whatever, I'm not going to let that stand in the way of progress.
If what I end up with is desirable, then nothing to stop it going into production and yep another boat maybe nobody wants unless RS or Ovington make it, but then that's their choice.
As always with anything I do, it wont be a big secret, and is open to constructive criticism, it just wont be called Icon. Psycon, Tricon, Bicon, Frankencon, whatever, lets just see what we can come up with shall we?

There's nothing that dramatic going on here, except freedom of choice, now nobody can disagree with that can they?

Edited by iGRF - 03 Nov 13 at 7:21pm

2547 ..

If you don't want one - well fine.  If you don't want to even try one ... er why ?   and if you don't want one and don't even want to try one .....  just why are you really this interested ?  Believe it or not people have free choice for some of their alloted  time and amazingly some really do what they want rather than what others think they should do.  If you want a standard package holiday,  a main brand car or a 'big brand' burger, eat steak well done and you always buy M&S shreddies that is your choice .. so what is the problem with others who want something slightly different ?    This sort of stuff surely cannot challenge the world order ! (for that you should have tried board racing in the day  )

It cannot challenge your own outlook either unless you let it.    I'm sure you will survive when some others choose to sail Icons  or even variants ...  or anything else out there for that matter ... so what is bugging you man ?  .... Chill !

Mike L.  (who had a great day in Icon 03 again with 'Dancing Farmer' and is now enjoying a decent glass of wine)

Originally posted by iGRF Originally posted by 2547 But you will have no one to race against. A one off like that will not a have a PY so you won't be able to enter any events.  And that would worry me because..?

Edited by 2547 - 03 Nov 13 at 4:55pm