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    Posted: 07 Jun 13 at 3:55pm
Originally posted by yellowwelly

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With all of the lower performance asymmetrics,  their Achilles heel is the dead run.   In anything other than a big breeze, they just have to sail such a long distance.   I sometimes wonder if they would be quicker dropping the kite and goose winging straight to the bottom mark.
the D1 can sack off the kite for those short legs and run by the lee, finn-stylee. 


Ah, that's good.   I didn't realise that the RS100 has stays and the D1 is a stayless  rig.   So, you can't square out the boom in a 100.  


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Originally posted by boatshed

 

With all of the lower performance asymmetrics,  their Achilles heel is the dead run.   In anything other than a big breeze, they just have to sail such a long distance.   I sometimes wonder if they would be quicker dropping the kite and goose winging straight to the bottom mark.

in fairness to Russ who's pimping this category, he has at least acknowledged that the D1 can sack off the kite for those short legs and run by the lee, finn-stylee.  

I doubt it's performing to its handicap, but it's better than fannying around with your head in the bottom of the boat hoisting, only to be sent in the wrong direction off the rhumline by a gust or lull, before dropping the kite and fetching in to the mark... hopefully without having to throw some tacks in for good measure.
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Originally posted by Rupert

they find themselves having to sail a long way further down wind than the more traditional singlehanders once the kite is up, and so do badly even on the new handicap.


With all of the lower performance asymmetrics,  their Achilles heel is the dead run.   In anything other than a big breeze, they just have to sail such a long distance.   I sometimes wonder if they would be quicker dropping the kite and goose winging straight to the bottom mark.

 In handicap racing, they are so course dependent.    Give them a beat, followed by a series of broadish reaches and they're difficult to beat.

The PY's put an RS200 only 2% quicker than a National 12 which is a foot shorter, has no kite and carries less (main & jib) sail area.

The PY of an RS100 ( 10.2 sq.m sail) is whisker faster than an  RS300.   And the 8.4 rig a whisker slowr

And the veritable old Tasar with it's modest sail area and no kite is still a rapid thing.




 
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I'm not going to check back, but surely in 211 pages there has been worse drifting?

Back on subject, we just have 1 100 at our club, with no real sign of a fleet building, though we do have several Vareos. I have a feeling the latter is a little better suited to a small lake, though even they find themselves having to sail a long way further down wind than the more traditional singlehanders once the kite is up, and so do badly even on the new handicap. Must borrow one and see if it is the boats or the sailors (though of course it could still be the sailor, then...)
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Absolutely- it's Friday and really what else is there to say about the one trick pony?
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At the risk of being accused of trying to be the forum police, isn't the thread drift getting a little extreme here?
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Originally posted by Rupert

I note in that photo that she isn't wearing a buoyancy aid, and yet didn't (as far as I'm aware) drown! Mind, no harness, either. 

she had a nice manly skiff sailor to look after her though... pretty little kitten.
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Originally posted by yellowwelly

to be fair, if you haven't got the space & location for a Musto, then I really struggle to see where the D1 or 100 fit in, they need long legs to get that kite to pay....

To put that into context, at Datchet, a fair size venue, a few weeks ago breeze was in high teens and to get down the length of the of the lake (about 1 mile) was taking around 4 minutes with a few gybes. 
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Originally posted by Hanna

Originally posted by yellowwelly

I was thinking the same thing- a perfect stepping stone from Laser to MPS!

I'm glad to hear you say that... not that I'm silly enough to consider an MPS as a future boat... oh no. Nor am I idiot enough to listen to our clubs *demi-god sailor* when he whispers to me "try the MPS in Menorca, you'll love it, you'll be fine". Nope. Not me. 

Ahem.

Right... better go pack.

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I note in that photo that she isn't wearing a buoyancy aid, and yet didn't (as far as I'm aware) drown! Mind, no harness, either. 
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