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PrimeMart ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 06 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2 |
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Hi there,
I am a beginner adult sailor, currently on an adult sail training course which should take me to RYA level 2 in a couple of weeks. I am having the time of my life and cannot wait to get on the water solo. I have been researching single handed dinghies. I am not sure about the Laser, at 42 yrs old and 14 1/2 stone (with dodgy hips and knees) I would rather sit in the boat rather than on it. The Solo dinghy looks a good second hand buy. Cheap and stable - but not that fast. The Supernova appears faster and may take me further. The RS Vareo is the most expensive, and most complicated. The reviews say it is stable, but can also be fast. It has an asymmetrical spinnaker which sounds fun but perhaps may be a bit too much for me to handle to begin with.My club (Thornbury SC) sails on the tidal Severn river What do you think? |
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Kev M ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 05 Dec 11 Location: Landlocked Online Status: Offline Posts: 346 |
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Vareos get a bad press but they can be fun. Personally i would say the are as uncomfortable as a laser in light winds. I'd probably go for the Solo or the Supernova if I were you.
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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The thing about boats is you ain't marrying them. If you want to dump them after 6 months its OK. There are people on this forum who seem to change class every three months - or that's what it feels like...
So there's absolutely no point in spending weeks agonising over what boat you want to spend time sailing in for the next ten years. Besides you won't really know what sort of sailing you want to do for a while yet. So as a beginner my advice is to get one of the numerous popular classes that you can buy and sell easily, Laser or Solo are obvious choices, spend enough money to get something half decent that won't break (so not a thirty five year old glass fibre Holt Solo for example), and reckon that you'll probably be flogging it and getting something else for next season... And don't give one moment's consideration to how far it will take you, just plan to be taking something else:-) Edited by JimC - 06 May 13 at 11:35pm |
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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I would see what else they sail at thornbury. Having someone to sail against will take you far 'further' than buying a fast boat, if you want to be sailing at speed then you've picked the wrong sport- speed is far more attainable in windsurfing and kitesurfing! Sailing is a tactical game as well as an exhilarating experience - and IMHO, the Solo has that by the bucket load. But Jim's right about the really old GRP ones and also about changing classes. If it sucks, sell it, buy something else!
Good to see th Supernova is on the list though, that little extra burst of speed could useful in the tide at thornbury and it would be cheaper for sure. Good luck, enjoy! |
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PrimeMart ![]() Newbie ![]() Joined: 06 May 13 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2 |
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Thanks for the advice everyone. It is increasingly looking like a wooden (oldish) Solo.
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Ian29937 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 25 May 05 Online Status: Offline Posts: 409 |
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Looking at their results, there are no Solo's or Supernova's racing at the club. Just a selection of Lasers, Toppers and an RS300. One thing which did stick out was the Graduate. It's a two handed boat but has a smallish rig and is quite stable. At your weight you could sail it easily singlehanded or with the jib furled. The real plus is that it is a lot more comfortable if you do have bad knee's than the single handers as it has a relatively deep cockpit... Just a thought.
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4ply ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Dec 11 Location: Rutland Online Status: Offline Posts: 17 |
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Solo - yes
Wood - no
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Rupert ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 04 Location: Whitefriars sc Online Status: Offline Posts: 8956 |
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Why not? An old wood Solo in good nick will be much stiffer and lighter than an old GRP one, and looking after a boat can be part of the whole ownership experience. So long as the OP understands it involves weilding a paintbrush, and takes an experienced boat bodger with him to inspect a boat if he doesn't have the skills, then an old wooden boat can be fun to own. |
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JimC ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 17 May 04 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 6662 |
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Quite so. Far better a wood Solo in reasonably nick than a tired pre foam sandwich one. There's something especially depressing about those seemingly unfixable bottom of sidetank leaks that let water into the tanks in more or less every outing.
The post foam sandwich Solos are as good as the pre foam sandwich ones... aren't... This applies to almost every class that was originally designed for plywood. Monolithic glass isn't really a great boatbuilding material, but if a boat was designed for it ab initio then the worst aspects could be minimised at the design stage. Edited by JimC - 07 May 13 at 3:57pm |
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4ply ![]() Newbie ![]() ![]() Joined: 03 Dec 11 Location: Rutland Online Status: Offline Posts: 17 |
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WE, agreed in some respects but Id rather be sailing then faffing around with paint or varnish. Given depreciation and maintenance costs, a good tupperware boat would be the better investment. I seem to have had a string of boats with wood in need of attention and frankly, now I have a 300 it fills me with joy to know I havnt got a major job looming at some point. Of course, we don't know what the OP is wanting to spend either! If like me, the first boat budget is 300 quid then you can't be too choosy! If on the other hand its £3K, then you're in decent wood and tupperware territoty with a Solo (I've had four BTW). Add to that the fact you are a defacto member of the 'also ran' club in some classes.....you will understand why I say 'no' to wood! But it does look pretty...
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