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    Posted: 21 Feb 13 at 11:33am
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Originally posted by Rupert

I think maybe some are over estimating the weight it has in the dinghy world and the influence over the opinions of industry professionals.
 
That's were the contradiction lies. If you were being professional you would care about the hand that feeds you. Yes we are not the whole customer base, but then again this is so simple to fix if you were being professional - just clear up the facts, apologise where mistakes were made and hopefully we'll all learn something and move on.
 
I'm starting to side with Pondmonkey that the extended silence is not a good sign that this was all a simple mistake.
 

Agreed ... plus there is that rather dodgy video of a collision at a mark as 555 seems to bully they way over the other boat ...
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Originally posted by Rupert

I think maybe some are over estimating the weight it has in the dinghy world and the influence over the opinions of industry professionals.
 
That's were the contradiction lies. If you were being professional you would care about the hand that feeds you. Yes we are not the whole customer base, but then again this is so simple to fix if you were being professional - just clear up the facts, apologise where mistakes were made and hopefully we'll all learn something and move on.
 
I'm starting to side with Pondmonkey that the extended silence is not a good sign that this was all a simple mistake.
 
BTW I'm certain the sail made absolutely no difference to the result. I would also be less concerned if the boat crew misinterpreted the rules in their favour. What makes this case different is that a top class crew, together with a leading sailmaker used an illegal sail to promote both of themselves. Having multiple parties involved makes it more difficult to believe something was not pre-meditated. If that proves to be the case, that is a real issue that the industry should care about.
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Originally posted by Rupert

 industry professionals.

Contradiction in terms there Rupert, there is absolutely nothing 'professional, or industrious' that I've ever been witness to in the dinghy 'business'.
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Are Speed Sails going to be at the Dinghy Show? If so, maybe they will display the Fireball sails for us all to take a look at and wonder what all the fuss has been about. I'm taking bets that they look like Fireball sails, act like Fireball sails and that I, for one, won't be able to tell the difference.

Yes, I care (a little, anyway) that they wen't measured/are illegal in the class, as the rules are supposed to be what keeps us from a total free for all, whether class rules or the ISAF ones, and I've enjoyed this thread, but I think maybe some are over estimating the weight it has in the dinghy world and the influence over the opinions of industry professionals.
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TBH, I get the feeling the big wide world does not much care about the mumbling on here.
Either you're involved and feel agrieved, in which case protest through the proper channels, or it's just chit-chat among bystanders.
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Well I've been trying hard not to read a positive in to the absence of a negative, and will continue to do so.  I would be much happier to see a definitive statement....but I'm guessing that won't happen now.
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True- though it helps* to have some offline chats ;-)


* Edit - to form opinion, not establish fact... Obviously

Edited by pondmonkey - 20 Feb 13 at 8:34pm
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well you might be right, but there are other possible scenarios and maybe some questions for the association.  

Edited by r2d2 - 20 Feb 13 at 8:48pm
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