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    Posted: 14 Feb 13 at 7:36am
but the 800 sails ARE class legal as they have been given dispensation by their class committee for their period of pre-adoption... this is very, very different from the Merlin and the Fireballl, where the association were in the dark and the tape drives were being trialled for a commercial third party.

Didn't some folks use the 'pimp' RS300 sail during its 'adoption assessment' in winter handicap events too?  Does that make some of the commentators here, all good blokes btw, cheats?  I don't think so.... not by a long way.
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Sam, I disagree. I don't care that the class have given dispensation to them to trial the sails, they should do it at their own events, not one where all entrants expect everyone else to be taking part on a level playing field within standard class rules. As for not caring because they only finished 7th....again rubbish to me, it doesn't matter if they finished 100th, they still ain't officially class legal where ever they finished.
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I would argue that the case of the RS is slightly different? The 800 sails have been cleared for trials by the class association, with a clear view to legalising them in the not too distant future. Also, people tend not to get so upset over a boat that finished seventh....

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Originally posted by SoggyBadger


Originally posted by Drylander

There has always been something a bit underhanded about this outfit ever since they got it from the Estaugh family, why do you think they lost there top sailmakers (did not want to be part of it is my guess).
Just out of curiosity, is your opinion of then any higher or lower than your opinion of RS, who fielded out of class sails on some of their RS800s at the BM?

A very valid point - in PR terms RS walk on water.
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Originally posted by Drylander

There has always been something a bit underhanded about this outfit ever since they got it from the Estaugh family, why do you think they lost there top sailmakers (did not want to be part of it is my guess).


Just out of curiosity, is your opinion of then any higher or lower than your opinion of RS, who fielded out of class sails on some of their RS800s at the BM?
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There has always been something a bit underhanded about this outfit ever since they got it from the Estaugh family, why do you think they lost there top sailmakers (did not want to be part of it is my guess).

I heard they still owe wages to the ex Aldridge staff most likely why they keep changing the trading name !

Don't think I would buy there product again as this type of thing causes a bad taste.
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

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all this chasing of companies - witch hunt is this? (only joking!) 

lol... you could view it like that.  Although something as relatively simple as a sailmaking business (no disrespect intended to the sail making industry, simple is good imho) shouldn't surely need this much complexity in their corporate structuring, unless of course something's not quite right...

I was just being silly.  But simple and clear is always good
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Originally posted by r2d2

all this chasing of companies - witch hunt is this? (only joking!) 

lol... you could view it like that.  Although something as relatively simple as a sailmaking business (no disrespect intended to the sail making industry, simple is good imho) shouldn't surely need this much complexity in their corporate structuring, unless of course something's not quite right...
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all this chasing of companies - witch hunt is this? (only joking!) 
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Originally posted by sandgrounder

Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

What I don't understand is if Sailboats is still owned by these guys, why they would dissolve their limited company?  Secondly, why when acquiring the assets of Purple Marine they haven't taken formal shareholding ownership in the new legal entity, Purple Marine Distribution Limited.  The whois search still shows the admin contact as the former director of Purple Marine Limited.

Instead Purple Marine Distribution Limited lists only one registered company director, a fellow who appears to be a financial intermediary and is listed only as a consultant according to duedil.com (a respected due diligence information provider)

All very, very complex... what are they hiding?
 
So hypothetically, given the lack of transparency, you could potentially, as a UK manufacturer be unwittingly supplying the 500 sails, on credit, to the same guy you've been chasing for millions of pounds for the past couple of years....ouch.

hypothetically... yes 
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