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    Posted: 13 Feb 13 at 6:16pm
I recently had a measurer point out to me that I did not have the weight stamped in KG on the lead corrector in my hull. He suggested that I could be dq'd for that but offered to stamp it for me (eh - without weighing it?!). He didn't stamp it and I wasn't dq'd but maybe my boat was illegal even though it had a new measurement certificate? If so then so too were half the fleet. 

When I attend an event, I want to be confident that any other competing boat meets the rules of the fleet in all significant areas relating to safety and performance. I would also hope, however, that the officials would have the expertise to make an informed judgement when it comes to very minor  infringements. Is an unmeasured sail on a front running boat sponsored by a sail loft significant? I leave that to the officials to decide   LOL. 
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Originally posted by rogerd

aaaaaarrrrggghhh I get sent away for two days for a rather dull conference and find you lot still havent got bored with this thread and there are another 145 posts..... its no good I cant be bothered to even try to catch up on the last 20 pages.


Hopefully the knowledge that you've missed nothing of consequence here will be compensation for your dull conference.
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aaaaaarrrrggghhh I get sent away for two days for a rather dull conference and find you lot still havent got bored with this thread and there are another 145 posts..... its no good I cant be bothered to even try to catch up on the last 20 pages.
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[/QUOTE]and hopefully the FC will remind him/her what mine always does, 'the sale is only complete once the customer has paid for the goods'.
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...and the cheque has cleared, James!
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

What I don't understand is if Sailboats is still owned by these guys, why they would dissolve their limited company?  Secondly, why when acquiring the assets of Purple Marine they haven't taken formal shareholding ownership in the new legal entity, Purple Marine Distribution Limited.  The whois search still shows the admin contact as the former director of Purple Marine Limited.

Instead Purple Marine Distribution Limited lists only one registered company director, a fellow who appears to be a financial intermediary and is listed only as a consultant according to duedil.com (a respected due diligence information provider)

All very, very complex... what are they hiding?
 
So hypothetically, given the lack of transparency, you could potentially, as a UK manufacturer be unwittingly supplying the 500 sails, on credit, to the same guy you've been chasing for millions of pounds for the past couple of years....ouch.
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I have heard stories of 3 telephones in the same office, one for speeds, one for purple, and one for northampton. The guy who told me this was told not to let on that all three were operating out the same office, but he couldnt say why.
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Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

What I don't understand is if Sailboats is still owned by these guys, why they would dissolve their limited company?  Secondly, why when acquiring the assets of Purple Marine they haven't taken formal shareholding ownership in the new legal entity, Purple Marine Distribution Limited.  The whois search still shows the admin contact as the former director of Purple Marine Limited.

Instead Purple Marine Distribution Limited lists only one registered company director, a fellow who appears to be a financial intermediary and is listed only as a consultant according to duedil.com (a respected due diligence information provider)

All very, very complex... what are they hiding?
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Originally posted by sandgrounder

Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

'Sailboats Limited' is no longer a trading company according to Riskdisk, however it is still listed as active on companies house webcheck.  

Both Speed Sails Dinghies Limited and Sailboats Limited are acknowledged to have a Group structure, however the ultimate parent company is restricted from view from standard channels.  This may suggest offshore or international operations, but that is not definitive.

This is the type of information a Financial Controller of a supplier may view when assessing creditworthiness.

  

 
To be fair, how many companies in the UK marine sector would run a credit check when they receive an order for, say, 500 sails, from the UK's only authorized Laser dealer? The Financial Controller's more likely to be busy taking the sales guy out for a pint....

and hopefully the FC will remind him/her what mine always does, 'the sale is only complete once the customer has paid for the goods'.
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

'Sailboats Limited' is no longer a trading company according to Riskdisk, however it is still listed as active on companies house webcheck.  

Both Speed Sails Dinghies Limited and Sailboats Limited are acknowledged to have a Group structure, however the ultimate parent company is restricted from view from standard channels.  This may suggest offshore or international operations, but that is not definitive.

This is the type of information a Financial Controller of a supplier may view when assessing creditworthiness.

  

 
To be fair, how many companies in the UK marine sector would run a credit check when they receive an order for, say, 500 sails, from the UK's only authorized Laser dealer? The Financial Controller's more likely to be busy taking the sales guy out for a pint....
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Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

'Sailboats Limited' is no longer a trading company according to Riskdisk, however it is still listed as active on companies house webcheck.  

Both Speed Sails Dinghies Limited and Sailboats Limited are acknowledged to have a Group structure, however the ultimate parent company is restricted from view from standard channels.  This may suggest offshore or international operations, but that is not definitive.

This is the type of information a Financial Controller of a supplier may view when assessing creditworthiness.

  



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