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    Posted: 13 Feb 13 at 3:42pm
According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.
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Originally posted by Peaky

So, just to be clear on this, are Speeds, Northampton Sailboats and Purple Marine owned by Farzad Rastegar,

You need GRF for this sort of thing, but a quick trawl of the free websites that do various company details suggests there's no connection. But I really know near enough nothing about that sort of thing.
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A quick public domain record search shows Speed Sails Limited as a dissolved company, whereas the details for Speed Sails Dinghies Limited as live, and registered to the Northampton Sailboats site:




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Tony Lincoln was there at the TT cheering on his jockys.
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Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

'Sailboats Limited' is no longer a trading company according to Riskdisk, however it is still listed as active on companies house webcheck.  

Both Speed Sails Dinghies Limited and Sailboats Limited are acknowledged to have a Group structure, however the ultimate parent company is restricted from view from standard channels.  This may suggest offshore or international operations, but that is not definitive.

This is the type of information a Financial Controller of a supplier may view when assessing creditworthiness.

  



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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

'Sailboats Limited' is no longer a trading company according to Riskdisk, however it is still listed as active on companies house webcheck.  

Both Speed Sails Dinghies Limited and Sailboats Limited are acknowledged to have a Group structure, however the ultimate parent company is restricted from view from standard channels.  This may suggest offshore or international operations, but that is not definitive.

This is the type of information a Financial Controller of a supplier may view when assessing creditworthiness.

  

 
To be fair, how many companies in the UK marine sector would run a credit check when they receive an order for, say, 500 sails, from the UK's only authorized Laser dealer? The Financial Controller's more likely to be busy taking the sales guy out for a pint....
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pondmonkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Feb 13 at 5:23pm
Originally posted by sandgrounder

Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

'Sailboats Limited' is no longer a trading company according to Riskdisk, however it is still listed as active on companies house webcheck.  

Both Speed Sails Dinghies Limited and Sailboats Limited are acknowledged to have a Group structure, however the ultimate parent company is restricted from view from standard channels.  This may suggest offshore or international operations, but that is not definitive.

This is the type of information a Financial Controller of a supplier may view when assessing creditworthiness.

  

 
To be fair, how many companies in the UK marine sector would run a credit check when they receive an order for, say, 500 sails, from the UK's only authorized Laser dealer? The Financial Controller's more likely to be busy taking the sales guy out for a pint....

and hopefully the FC will remind him/her what mine always does, 'the sale is only complete once the customer has paid for the goods'.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote pondmonkey Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 13 Feb 13 at 5:34pm
Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

What I don't understand is if Sailboats is still owned by these guys, why they would dissolve their limited company?  Secondly, why when acquiring the assets of Purple Marine they haven't taken formal shareholding ownership in the new legal entity, Purple Marine Distribution Limited.  The whois search still shows the admin contact as the former director of Purple Marine Limited.

Instead Purple Marine Distribution Limited lists only one registered company director, a fellow who appears to be a financial intermediary and is listed only as a consultant according to duedil.com (a respected due diligence information provider)

All very, very complex... what are they hiding?
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I have heard stories of 3 telephones in the same office, one for speeds, one for purple, and one for northampton. The guy who told me this was told not to let on that all three were operating out the same office, but he couldnt say why.
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Originally posted by pondmonkey

Originally posted by SoggyBadger

According to their web site Sailboats uk is still owned by its founders Tony and Antony Lincoln.

What I don't understand is if Sailboats is still owned by these guys, why they would dissolve their limited company?  Secondly, why when acquiring the assets of Purple Marine they haven't taken formal shareholding ownership in the new legal entity, Purple Marine Distribution Limited.  The whois search still shows the admin contact as the former director of Purple Marine Limited.

Instead Purple Marine Distribution Limited lists only one registered company director, a fellow who appears to be a financial intermediary and is listed only as a consultant according to duedil.com (a respected due diligence information provider)

All very, very complex... what are they hiding?
 
So hypothetically, given the lack of transparency, you could potentially, as a UK manufacturer be unwittingly supplying the 500 sails, on credit, to the same guy you've been chasing for millions of pounds for the past couple of years....ouch.
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