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GarethT ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 714 |
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It's knowingly breaking a rule though.
Is there a hierarchy of optional rules?
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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Why not? It doesn't confirm to the rules does it? I know exactly what you mean but it depends on whether you use strict adherence or personal interpretations (see my previous post)
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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maxibuddah ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 06 Mar 09 Location: United Kingdom Online Status: Offline Posts: 1760 |
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It depends on your definition of cheat, is it (1) someone who knowingly breaks the rules in a minor way where no advantage is being sought nor gained over other competitors (2) someone who knowingly breaks the rules to gain an advantage over other competitors If it is the former then personally I'd say so what, does it really matter, however if it is the latter then yes, you are a cheat and should be chucked out. The trouble with this comes from the cycling world. Is Lance Armstrong a cheat? He used drugs (he has admitteded now so no alledgely) but was it to gain an advantage over everyone else? His point of view was no he didn't cheat as everyone else did it to, so he was only bringing himself up to a level playing field. To most people he is a cheat as he was outside of the rules. Please note that I am saying this as devils advocate but the principle is bascially the same, it just depends on what your thoughts about cheating actually are. Personally I'd say lazy or forgetful (we've all done something like that I suspect), not cheating, but by the rules you are..... grey area open for discussion further there away from the subject of the Furball crew as these things start to get personal which is not desireable. P.S. at a proper keyboard now....
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Everything I say is my opinion, honest
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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A misplaced sail number isn't the same as a new sail construction method that is not legal.
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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but if you were in contention you'd probably have a new rag anyway... given to you by a sponsor.
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GarethT ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 714 |
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Knowingly breaking a class rule though?
Maybe sportsmanship isn't as black and white as some think then.
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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I would do the same, but then I'm never going to be in with a chance of winning something major. If I was and I cared about it then I would correct. As I said in my earlier post I find it easy to agree with all the points in isolation. It's bringing them together that creates the problem.
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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sensible I'd say...
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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Of course they wont, they have been ruled illegal their class. |
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GarethT ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 21 Apr 07 Online Status: Offline Posts: 714 |
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When I bought my boat, the sail numbers were 100mm above the prescribed position, and not parallel to the batten pocket. This puts them out of the class measurement rules.
I can't be arsed to peel them off, put new ones in the right place and have to deal with the sticky left behind in the wrong place.
At a class event I will no doubt be protested by a class measurer, but at a handicap event no-one will give a toss.
If I use this sail at a handicap event (as it is the only one I have), does this make me a cheat, showing contempt for my fellow competitors, or just lazy?
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