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oi, leave the ebay moth alone, it's on my watch list.

Originally posted by iGRF ..... but all the time the vested interest of the luddite owners is appeased, it'll just be what it is, an antediluvian class that won't even wear lipstick.

It's actually in the interests of the majority of the class to ensure there is a reasonable depth of talent to race against.

I share your interests in developing new stuff, but when it comes to getting out racing, I would do better to ditch my RS400 (which is no longer modern itself) and race the local class with a 1906 hull design. But I want to strike a balance between fun performance, tactical racing and cost.

What you want is out there in the Moths and Inter 14's, but most of us don't have the cash to buy something new every two years, or the talent to justify it.

I think this era is a bad time for you, to some extent you would have been more easily pleased in the 90's when people were being drawn to the new classes a) because asy's gave them a speed boost, and b) because there was a lot of easy money about to pay for it. In those days it was easy to up your mortgage a bit and trade up your car with enough to spare for a Boss or RS800 or whatever. A lot of top sailors went into the new classes, now the best action is in older classes.

Sailboards seemed to meet all your ideas of 'better' but who's racing them at club level these days?
We used to have a dedicated club in Southsea, that's packed up due to lack of support.
You could say the same about cats, used to have mega fleets around here, a lot of their best sailors are now spotted in much slower boats getting a lot of fun from their racing.

Anyway if you want to develop the V2, buy this:
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Fast-classic-International-Moth-sailing-dinghy-project-boat-needs-paint-/261166668092?pt=UK_Sporting_Goods_Sailing_Boats_ET&hash=item3ccebf193c

Only kidding!

To IGRF- Poppycock; you clearly know nothing.  

Edited by GMYW - 08 Feb 13 at 4:53pm

Originally posted by RS400atC Originally posted by iGRF What's really wrong in all this is that antediluvian classes with their bullsh*t antiquated rules and refusal to adopt modern cloths .... Why is that?Could it be because those are the classes that offer the best racing, therefore attracting a lot of the best sailors?If you look at the classes attrracting good levels of quality support in the UK lately, I think you see a general trend of not changing too quickly. A new class might come along now and then, but classes like Merlins, Fireballs RS400's are strong because people can keep the same boat for several years and be competitive at the top level. They are kept on their toes by circuit sailors who may have a boat some years old but can still take the odd  scalp from cheque book sailors and semi-pro's.People playing football don't go moaning that they need to be playing with a higher tech ball.Sailing (dinghy racing) is competing against people, the rules and equipment are a framework for that.

True, sailing is about competing against people, but also new people, new people who wonder why you're still using old crap like a fireball which hasn't been modified much since it was developed in 1962, this furore almost got me looking at it, we're looking for a new ride in the single trapeze stakes, but hell look at it will you, it's ancient and not everyone wants to join the CVRDA. The irony that hull could look quite reasonable with a modern rig, but all the time the vested interest of the luddite owners is appeased, it'll just be what it is, an antediluvian class that won't even wear lipstick.

Hi Gordon