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Laser 28 - Excellent example of this great design Hamble le rice |
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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I don't think they've retracted their comment. It seems to be an Internet Explorer issue as the statement is still there in Chrome or my Ipad.
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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Unless you subscribe to the statement "no such thing as bad publicity"
Interesting to see the Fireballs retract their comment
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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Fair enough, so just edited above post.
In effect this is marketing gone wrong.
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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What a royal mess ...
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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Is it the same 'sailmaker' though? It's the same brand, but really do we need the smoke and mirrors in dinghy racing....
everyone accepts that 'RS Powered by Hyde Sails' are made by Hyde. everyone accepts that it doesn't matter a jot who makes the official Laser sails, they're still a rip off. everyone used to accept that classes with choice in sailmakers meant dealing with a sailmaker, or at the very least a class representative salesman (North for example do this very well), not a.n.other faceless brand of the Northampton chandlery massif... If the 555 is supposed to be good marketing... FAIL use these guys instead: http://www.hdsails.com
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r2d2 ![]() Far too distracted from work ![]() Joined: 29 Sep 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 350 |
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"It really is quite simple, if you sail out of class advise the RO beforehand so they can make a decision on any adjustments."
actually the SI's stated 'the requirement for all boats to sail according to their respective class rules.' They do also state that 'New classes will be given a ‘trial’ handicap and may be subject to revision during the event', but the boat in question would have to be accepted as a new class to get in via this route |
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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Actually I agree with that point which, if it turns out the RO was not informed of an out of class sail, is why I'm stunned that with the same type of sail involved no lessons were learnt. It really is quite simple, if you sail out of class advise the RO beforehand so they can make a decision on any adjustments. We should not be in the position of putting a number of people in a very awkward position again. Don't get me wrong, I'm very much in favour of classes experimenting to make boats better, just don't sail an out-of-class boat using an in-class PY surreptitiously. That's showing a lot of disrespect for the organisers of a PY event and the other competitors. Edited to reflect Pondmonkey's point.
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2547 ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 11 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 1151 |
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Check this page again ....
Seems the Fireballs are back pedaling ...
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pondmonkey ![]() Really should get out more ![]() ![]() Joined: 12 Aug 11 Online Status: Offline Posts: 2202 |
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Quote from Andy Rice re the Merlin:
I’m not sufficiently familiar with the minutiae of the Merlin Rocket class rules to understand their error, and maybe they broke the letter of the law, but they certainly didn’t break the spirit. I respect their decision, but it wasn’t necessary in my view. Published 18/02/2011 At the time I disagreed, rules is rules, handicap racing is as important as class racing etc; but on reflection I don't- what was achieved by their retirement? It just alienated the winners, made the runner up feel awkward... have either returned to the SJ series? All it did was sour the reputation of the classes, sailmakers and sailors involved... to what end? Precedent set for the future benefit of the events.... clearly not it would seem. Handicap racing should only ever be treated as a bit of fun surely... to the winner, imho you are no cheat. Well done for pushing the boundaries of the class a bit further and thank you for sharing this in the public domain. Oh yes, guess you must have sailed pretty well to have won too... but that's irrelevant innit?
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rb_stretch ![]() Really should get out more ![]() Joined: 23 Aug 10 Online Status: Offline Posts: 742 |
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So it seems we have established the facts on the boat being out of class. The only missing fact now is whether the Fireball crew notified the RO before the race.
Given the abilities and level at which the crew sails, I sincerely hope they did. Otherwise it seems no lessons whatsoever where learnt from the Merlin debacle. |
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