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    Posted: 07 Feb 13 at 10:09am
Originally posted by boatshed


thank god there is no prize money at stake

in 2011 there was prize of £1,000 for the first team to win all races at the Tiger Trophy - not sure if this is still awarded
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Originally posted by boatshed

I would sail and protest the RO for an excessive PY hit.   This would be just a legitimate as any other competitor protesting the RO on the basis the PY hit should have been more severe.


And in both cases the redress hearing would take about two minutes flat. The Race Committee has the authority to set whatever handicaps it likes.

I have in the past turned up at an event and been given a 50 point hit because "I [The RO] heard that [my class] won everything at the [redacted] last month and I didn't want it happening here." It was pathetic, childish and ill informed, but he was within his rights to do it, and our only alternative was to turn around and go back home. And in point of fact, although I did sail that day, I have never entered an event at that club since.



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A PY hit in a pursuit race is totally demoralising. You start late and have no chance of catching up, so just sail round by yourself. At least in normal race you could still sork out where you would have come if the punitive PY hit had been imposed.

I know it isn't confirmed, but it would be inexcusable for Speed to have flouted the same rule again. Not that I understand why there is a rule about secondary reinforcement - it seems a bit technical to me - but you'd like to think the sailmakers know about, and abide by, such rules.
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Originally posted by Peaky

Not that I understand why there is a rule about secondary reinforcement - it seems a bit technical to me - but you'd like to think the sailmakers know about, and abide by, such rules.


If you don't control patch size then there's nothing to stop multi-ply sails being used in classes which specify single ply soft sail as the construction method.
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Originally posted by JimC

Originally posted by boatshed

I would sail and protest the RO for an excessive PY hit.   This would be just a legitimate as any other competitor protesting the RO on the basis the PY hit should have been more severe.


And in both cases the redress hearing would take about two minutes flat. The Race Committee has the authority to set whatever handicaps it likes.

I have in the past turned up at an event and been given a 50 point hit because "I [The RO] heard that [my class] won everything at the [redacted] last month and I didn't want it happening here." It was pathetic, childish and ill informed, but he was within his rights to do it, and our only alternative was to turn around and go back home. And in point of fact, although I did sail that day, I have never entered an event at that club since.



Heh heh I got something like that at the tiger a few years ago - hmm you looked like you were going as fast as a Merlin (upwind in light patchy stuff, very scientific) so after inspecting your boat and agreeing to a yardstick, I'm putting you onto a Merlin PY so a 40pt ish  slashing with retrospective corrections to your results.
Pursuit race was great, a modern merlin is about 2kts quicker all around the compass in breeze.
But thems the rules and if you don't like it don't compete!


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Ah, okay. Presumably multi-ply sails are banned because they are more expensive, and lead to an arms race?
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So....3 days after the thread starts with speculation in one area, and expands to cover several more, has anyone sent an email to Speed Sails, the organisers of either the Tiger or the Sailjuice Series or the Fireball class?


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Post Options Post Options   Quote SoggyBadger Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Feb 13 at 12:30pm
Originally posted by Peaky

Ah, okay. Presumably multi-ply sails are banned because they are more expensive, and lead to an arms race?


Partly perhaps. But multi-ply sails can also start to blur the boundary between normal sails and wing sails.
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Post Options Post Options   Quote tick Quote  Post ReplyReply Direct Link To This Post Posted: 07 Feb 13 at 12:32pm
Hummmm....I would never take advice from a Frenchman and particularly not one who advocated slicing women's bum cheeks off in a siege.

Still, 'everything is for the best in this the best of all possible Worlds'.......(paraphrase)

On this forum, 'never let facts get in the way of a good story'.
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